Where to store bridging ladders, not on a roof rack?

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
I want to build some bridging ladders for my truck, that's the easy part. Since I'm staying reasonably small tired, some bridging ladders would come in handy. But, I don't have, and don't want a full-size roof rack. The logic being that, I just don't think it makes sense to mount a 100-150lb rack on the roof when it's main purpose is to hold 30-40lbs worth of bridging ladders. I'm anti-overloaded-roof rack, I'll never carry gas cans up there or anything like that. Lastly, the big roof racks are practically permanent because they're so heavy and unweildy to remove. So, where is it possible to store the ladders?

1) One idea I've had is to... not build a rack per se, but to sort of make the ladders BE the rack. Basically, some fixings up on the back of the roof to which the ladders will be fastened such that the ladders would BE the rack flooring on the back.
My truck has the front 2.5" tube rails up front, I'd like to make a lightweight basket to use for some light things like life jackets, sleeping bags, etc. I like the look of those factory tubes, and would like to work with them, rather than covering them up or replacing them with some big rack. I was thinking of a way to mount the ladders on the rear portion and make it so it looks integrated, like you wouldn't even realize they were ladders until removed.

2) Alternatively, make sort of a simple rear half-rack. 2 vertical stanchions clamped to the roof rails on either side, with some structure to link them over the top. Then have the stanchions linked across the top with some tubing. The ladders would bolt to the stanchions in the classic Land Rover location. A half-rack on the back would be easy to remove, but I don't like the look of a half-rack. But with the ladders bolted to the sides, you wouldn't even see the stanchions. You'd just see the ladders on the side in the classic location, and then the nice factory rack up front. A big technical advantage to this would be that the ladders would serve as "roof sliders" which is an often sited advantage of the "big rack", an advantage I can see would be hugely beneficial to where I drive.

So that's one idea.

The other one I had, was to mount the ladders to my rear bumper and/or swing-away carrier I've been building.

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3) Maybe somewhat in this fashion:

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Mounted to the swing away arm, under the tire, at an angle.

4) I plan to have 2 gas cans on the left side of the tire, so there's no room left on that side. I wonder if I could stand them up vertical elsewhere, like either side of the tire, or both on the right side. I dunno.

5) One place I have lots of room would be under the truck, beside the frame. Big open space there. But obviously stupid.

6) Last idea, is under my kid's feet in the rear seat passenger well. Firmly fastened. They're little kids and don't use the space.

Any other ideas?

Of all the ideas, I think I like 2 and 3 the best.

2) Has the big advantage of creating roof sliders, and the classic Land Rover look. But, it is weight up high, and I'm very much anti-weight-on-the-roof. 3) keeps the weight low, but it's starting to pile a lot of things on the back end... 6) keeps the weight low, but I can think of better uses for that space. 4) seems like it would look stupid.

Anybody have more input?
 

MotoDave

Explorer
You could put a couple of yakima cross bars up there, with a portion of threaded rod and a wingnut to secure the bridging ladders to the rack. The ladders would make a flat 'floor' that you could tie other gear to, if needed, and would be as easy as a wingnut to remove. You'd leave the cross bars up there all the time I guess, but they are pretty unobtrusive. I guess its sort of similar to your option 2.
 

UK4X4

Expedition Leader
I had a similar dilema, but really the size limits you to where you can put them
even on my patrol !

I made U clips to mount on the side of the rack and then studs with nylocks keeping them in place.

Mine are only 1.5" deep so they don't weigh that much

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PS....you forgot your hitch for your trailer !
 
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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Dave: I did think of that, but I'd build the crossbars instead of buying Yakima bars. But I don't like the look of having those mounting feet on the sides like that. That's what led me to option 2), cover the feet with the ladders. If I did option 1), I'd mount the front of the latters to the back of the factory roof bars. At the back, I'd investigate drilling the back of the roof and using the factory weld-nuts that are supposed to be back there. They used to sell a roof rail extension kit that goes to the back of the truck, and put some weld nuts in the roof structure when they built the truck. You just need to take out some interior trim to find the nuts, then drill up through the roof panel, and now you've got some mount points. Nice and clean.

UK, that's pretty much what I was thinking, just not with the basket on top.

Didn't forget the hitch. This is basically what I'm doing:

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That's the big drop hitch for normal trailers. I'll have a shorter drop one for the off-road trailer.
 

elmo_4_vt

Explorer
I like option 2 mostly... I'll be installing a Thule rack and attaching mine (more sand ladders) to the top of those, not the side. I don't expect that they will need to come down very often, so it doesn't bother me if its a bit of a pain. It will also limit the increase in height which could be a problem for me because I'm already pretty high. I need the Thule bars for things like ladders and canoes.

Don

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