Winterised 110

CDNRover

New member
Has anyone ever drove a 110 in -20 -30 without mittens wool cap? I'm living in Tewkesbury (North to Québec city, Canada) and the heating system can't even cope with summer time.. I thought about some mods. but would like to get some different cue.
 

will

Adventurer
I think it's all relative...In 20F in the states, I drive my 110 around with wool gloves, hat, etc...

Been thinking about installing a Espar for supplimental heat.
 

graniterover

Observer
I drive my 88 with a pickup top in winter down to 15 or so with a hat and gloves and I have no door tops and it's not that bad. You can definitely feel the heat. In fact, I think I'll be driving tomorrow or sat with no top ;-)
(truck doesn't fit in garage with top on and I'm working on it. Not sure it's worth it to put the top on, test my fixes, then take it off again if the fix is not 100%)

I think you have three options.

1. summit 28000 btu heater (not sure how to fit in that truck)
2. a secondary heater
3. espar or similar
 

CDNRover

New member
Webasto

That's another step I have to do. I have a brand new webasto in the box needed to be install to preheat and help over with the heating system but, only small puffs of hot air comes from the ducts. Thought about making a cubbybox with an heater matrix and fan incoporated in it to provide some more heat. About the same system as in my Toyota 4Runner. Maybe change the heater box for a Gruman post truck one. Bigger and the fan does push air! How amazing is the switch for the blower in my 110! From nothing to almost something. How come they put such a range of not useful settings?
 

greenmeanie

Adventurer
If you want to see how its done go online and hunt down info on the Royal Marines winterized 110s used in Norway. You'll see a few tasty bits on there. As an aside there is an arctic heater on ebay right now.
 

Yorker

Adventurer
greenmeanie said:
If you want to see how its done go online and hunt down info on the Royal Marines winterized 110s used in Norway. You'll see a few tasty bits on there. As an aside there is an arctic heater on ebay right now.

I think they use the same kit at Suffield don't they? Some of it ought to be available up there in Canada. IIRC they use auxillary heaters in the back, I forget what else.
 

Michael Slade

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Here's what I did:

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It's made by Red Dot, has heat and AC. You can see the specs HERE.

It puts out more heat than 4 cold men can stand, and more cold than a side of beef needs to stay frozen.

I wish it had a fan setting between 0 and 1. That's about my only complaint.
 

Dendy Jarrett

Expedition Portal Admin
Staff member
Michael:
Is there a reason you didn't use the ceiling mount version?

My NAS 110 heats like a sauna inside, but the air conditioner with a new compressor, all new vacuum lines and all refurb systems cools as if two gerbils were blowing over an ice cube!

The slim ceiling mount looks like it is pretty clean.

Thoughts?

Dendy
 

Harald Hansen

Explorer
I had a preheater in my 109, in it made all the difference. Getting a head start on warming the truck before you drive off is really helpful. You might look into heated seats as well.

And have a look at the "Defender Vent", a new product AFAIK (Danish page, but click on the installation guide PDF). It is a kit compromising side window heater vents and improved windshield vents.
 

CDNRover

New member
Side vents

Thanks Harald,
This can be home made and it's brilliant. As my 110 is an ex-mod there's no windows on the hard top. I use my mirrors for reversing. As the doors are two pieces series type the window get not only foggy but they freeze up! Even when I'm changing line it can be dangerous to crash into someone else! I'll try to fit something like that. I'll get some pictures!
 

CDNRover

New member
Too much!

Thanks Michael, but that would be too much as there's no need for AC. But let me tell you that this stuff looks like you could drive with the window down in the worst weather! I thought about placing another matrix in the seat base. Just pop out the plate that covers the tranny and make a box so i can have a cubby box on top of it. make some ventilation holes into the cubbybox to provide hot air. Didn't put my idea on paper yet but I'll keep up post.
 

Yorker

Adventurer
you can fit an auxillary heater really easily, that will work well assuming your engine is reaching a decent temp. Do you have some sort of a Winter Front on? You'll never get any decent heat if your engine doesn't get up to a good operating temp.



some people have used the Mojave heater as an aux and been pleased with it, or you could get a rear heater from a TLC.

Another fellow I know fitted one of these heaters and says it easily roasts him in his 109.

Make sure your door seals are good, your bulkhead doesn't have holes etc, they all add up a lot.
 

Maryland 110

Adventurer
I noticed you have the 2.5 td. I have a Tdi and I can start it go back inside for 30 mins and come back out and the engine still isn't making heat. You have to put them under load to make heat. Once moving I get plenty of heat now after opening up the bulkhead opening and heater plenum.
There are a couple of pictures here: http://dividingcreekroverimports.com/defender_left_hand_drive_conversion

When you remove the heater you notice that the opening on the back where the heat leaves the heater is nearly twice the size of the small hole in the bulkhead. I matched the hole in the bulkhead to the heater and then matched the lower dash tray/heater plenum as well. This gets you nearly twice as much flow into the truck. Make sure the flap door in the heater box is adjusted properly as well.
 
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Dmarchand

Adventurer
I just picked up an Espar D5, new off of ebay for $800 (make the sellers an offer). It is my last resort to getting a warm cabin in the winter. The tdi won't heat up enough and cools too fast at idle.
 

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