Xj ome

photoman

Explorer
Oh man I know that feeling of deals that passed. I was the 2nd caller on a very clean stock FJ80. First caller bought it the same day.

Just take your time when looking. I looked at probably 15 vehicles before getting my 98 XJ. Drove to Tucson twice and came back with all my money. Looked at lifted ones that were a mess and ones that were stock and still a mess.



This thread has been a good read for me as well. Learning some stuff. :ylsmoke:
 

mc2az

Observer
Now a new twist....
Sons 93 XJ 2wd prerunner style still on the farm in Florida. Always a possibility to go get the Tomken rear bumper, Dynomax cat back, 31x10.5 BFG AT's (very low mi) on really cool Pacers (outlaw II knock offs). 3" RC w/aal isn't worth messin with. XJ's wore out too. Can't sell it out there right now. That would change the whole lift dilema with the 31's and the fenders. But that leads to SYE, adj track arm, neck bone connected to the knee bone, ect, ect.....Thats what I have tried over & over to teach my boys...wanna be crawlers. Change one thing...what does THAT change elswhere. I'm going crazy here.
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
You're on the right track. It's what I call the domino effect. So many newbies try to cheap out and just see the cost of part X, not understanding they also really need part Y and Z to go with it. Next thing you hear is them complaining that part X is a piece of crap or they now have this problem or that.

Whenever you start modifying anything beyond stock, you have to look at everything, cause and effect. Again, plan out what you want to do and start collecting parts. Like I had mentioned before, even stock, an XJ is quite capable. Also, buy parts that you can build on to and not have to replace when you decide the next mod. Saves a lot of money and frustration.

I used to be very quick to buy something and in the end regret a lot of the purchases I have made. Anymore, I spend 10's to 100's of hours thinking over mods and parts. Heck, my roof rack idea, I have spent 100's of hours over the last two years planning. Heck I have even bought/gotten two different roof racks that I haven't even put on and got rid of, since they were not exactly what I had in my head. I finally have my plan and just need to get my '68 truck project out of the garage so I can get to my welders again.

Again, feel free to ask questions or for comments. I for one am happy to help out.
 

Markos

New member
One thing to remember is that OME leafs do not come with leaf springs. If you go with Dirk, I believe that he will install them himself (1 point - Dirk). They can be a real PITA to install. Jason is also a long-time jeeper and has been on jeepsunlimited.com forever. I believe that he works closely with Dirk actually, you'd have to ask him. I ran into some fitment issues with the bushings that I purchased from jeepinoutfitters - don't know if they were the wrong size or what. I never contact Jason about it, so this isn't a negative comment on his business.

OME parts are sold a la carte. Dirk and others piece these together to make 'kits'. The terms light duty, heavy duty, etc are generic terms that offroaders and suppliers have coined. The actual parts simply go by part numbers.

Since you are in Arizona, another option would be to get the parts from Desert Fab out in AJ. That's where I got my parts from. I had him install the leaf bushings in exchange for a pizza and some mountan dew. :)

If you are looking to save a bit of cash, you can get 2" 160lb springs from Rusty's for $100 (you will hear a lot of negative feedback about Rusty's though, I think the coils would probably do fine). If you call up Rubicon Express also has 2" springs, although they aren't listed on their website (one-off batch). Since the 160lb OME coils cost around $300, it's something to consider.

I'm running the following:

  • Old Man Emu N35 Shock
  • Old Man Emu N36 Shock
  • Old Man Emu JC1B Leaf Pack
  • U Bolts 8.25
  • JKS Quicker Disco's
  • Rubicon Express 2" Coil (no part #)
  • Rubicon Express SS extended brakelines

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mc2az

Observer
Thanks guys- new XJ

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Alright guys here it is!
"98 xj 137K I found it in Denver about 3 weeks ago on cars.com and called the dealer a week ago some small fly by night used car lot, asked him to hold it with my credit card until I could get up there this weekend. My wife and I jumped in the Santa Fe Thursday after work and drove to Denver, pulled on the car lot Friday about 2pm. And, there's my baby. The picture's on cars.com weren't that good so the first thing I did was look to see if there was a dent on the hatch which appeared in shadows online. Whew, Clean!!!
Got a creeper from the car lot shop and started crawling around underneath it, not rust. what appears to be 3" rough country but no markings. Everything seemed tight under there; opened the hood to my surprise K & N Air Filter System looks good here. Grabbed the keys started right up; got in drove down the street. Downtown Denver no where really to rap it out got it up to 50- cruise control works ya hoo... went around some back neighborhood locked in transfer case; climbed a few curbs, one front wheet at a time seems okay. Brakes pretty good; no typical xj suspension rattles; drove back to lot- wife and I head home $5100 lighter. Headed to the motel from the car lot on freeway between 50 & 55 very noticeable but manageable front end wobble; sat in the motel and tried to figure- **** for tires 265-? (can't remember) trying to think if I am going to deal with the wobble or go ahead and buy tires in Denver before driving back to Phoenix. Tomorrow's 4th of July. Wake up 4th of July in Denver decide on Pep Boys cheapo Dakota's just to get me home.

PepBoys 245-75-16's (yep 16 get to that later) $109 a piece (buy 3 get one free- rebate) Dakota AT's- front end alignment $49 free oil change plus odds and ends- wife put in the cart while they were working on the Jeep 11am leave Pepboys smooth as silk- no wobble, steering wheel straight, set the cruise and lean back. 63mph at 2000rpm.

Pros-
1.- Green
2. Cruise Control works
3. 16" RUBICON RIMS
4. Green
5. ARB winch bumper
6. PIAA offroad lights
7. Super Clean
8. Stock Radio
9. K & N Intake System

Cons-
1. Crap Tires (temporarily taken care of)
2. A/C cold but very little fan blowing through vents
3. Unidentified lift system
4. No SYE
5. Some sort of fuel delivery hick-up during take off could last for up to a minute like fuel pump, fuel filter- don't know but if it's rapped out on the throttle I can usually get past it- set cruise and drive for hours.
 

mc2az

Observer
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Let's try this shot.

XJ Mike you were very helpful and thanks man... All you guys coming over to my shop (this thread) thanks, but don't leave yet I'm still going to need your help, things I'm going to find and need to work on.
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
Nice looking Cherokee. I got your PM. Hope you get the little stuff sorted out.

I think I figured out what the problem was with the first post you tried to put a pic in, you had http:// twice. Should only have that part once.

Congrats!
 

Jay S.

Observer
Added a little something...

Pros-
1.- Green
2. Cruise Control works
3. 16" RUBICON RIMS
4. Green
5. ARB winch bumper
6. PIAA offroad lights
7. Super Clean
8. Stock Radio
9. K & N Intake System
10. High Pinion Dana 30!


Cons-
1. Crap Tires (temporarily taken care of)
2. A/C cold but very little fan blowing through vents
3. Unidentified lift system
4. No SYE
5. Some sort of fuel delivery hick-up during take off could last for up to a minute like fuel pump, fuel filter- don't know but if it's rapped out on the throttle I can usually get past it- set cruise and drive for hours.[/QUOTE]
 

mc2az

Observer
high pinion?

Explain the high pinion ( I don't have a problem admitting my ignorance). The more I drive it the more I love it. Gobbs of power, smooth ride on road (got to figure out the lift). Been workin a lot since I got back, and no shop available right now so I can't wait to really get into it. Great mpg so far too.
 

BIGdaddy

Expedition Leader
Explain the high pinion ( I don't have a problem admitting my ignorance). The more I drive it the more I love it. Gobbs of power, smooth ride on road (got to figure out the lift). Been workin a lot since I got back, and no shop available right now so I can't wait to really get into it. Great mpg so far too.

the pinion is a gear that looks looks like an Ice cream cone that goes into the back of the axle. the part of the pinion gear that you can see is the output that has the u-joint yoke or flange...

In the Dana 30 there are two flavors...high pinion and low pinion. The low pinion has this gear coming in towards the bottom of the housing. The high comes in high on the housing.

Low pinion and high pinion dana 44's, but same exact Idea:

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