Fall in GWNF/ Spruce Knob

Viggen

Just here...
Took the Disco out on a camping trip last weekend. Had a great time running some pretty fun trails. Was originally trying to find a specific spot but had no idea how to get there so my GF and I just started following random trails. After bashing through some low hanging branches (putting my home made risers to work) and turning down some random trails, we ended up at the base of a small, rutted climb that looked like it could lead to a cool site so put it in 4 low and just let the truck do all the work. Got to the top and was greeted with a superb spot to set up. Here are a few (Blackberry and real camera) pictures.
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Right about here is where I say to myself, hmmm, that drip wasnt there before.
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Walk over behind the truck and notice that there are about two trails of gear oil going down the inside of the passengers rear tire with some small puddling in the rim of the wheel. Camp is all set up, miles and miles away from anything, so I decide to deal with it in the morning. Wake up, after a crazy night of seriously high winds (downside to the literal top of the mountain in a clearing) and a "deer" heavily sniffing the tent around 1 a.m. (I say "deer" as if I told my GF, whose side of the tent was being actively sniffed, what it really was, she would never go camping with me again) I walk out and check the truck.
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No active leak, puddle is the same size and the trail hasnt gotten any bigger. Popped the rear diff guard off and checked the fluid level and it was good so we packed up and drove home. I live in an apartment but my parents live about 30 minutes away so I pulled into their driveway and immediately got to work with parts I had stored away in their garage for install on a later date. Bearings, inner and outer seals, gaskets, discs and Ferrodo pads, lock nuts and washers and the Ashcrofts HD axles (holy crap these make the stockers look like toys) and hubs and I was done. Laughed a few times as the job wasnt that hard and that the person who had done this before did both side differently. The side that was leaking had both seals and no blue locktite on anything and the side that was fine was missing the seals but everything had thread locker. Weird how that side wasnt actually leaking. All that in less than 4 hours. It is such an easy job. Got to love full float rear axles.

Buttoned everything up and got into the truck to drive home. Slight smell but nothing out of the ordinary considering that they were brand new discs and pads. Got to a stop light several miles away and noticed people in the car next to me staring at my truck. Nothing out of the ordinary since it happens a lot but for some reason I decided to look back. It was then that I discovered smoke drifting by. Poked my head out the window and instant panic ensued as I notice smoke pouring out of the drivers side rear wheel! Im sitting in the left lane of a 3 lane road at a red light but instantly make the decision that it is time to cut everyone off and get into a parking lot as soon as possible. I cut across the intersection and into a parking lot, grabbed my extinguisher off the floor in the back seat and jumped out ready to do work. Thankfully, no fire but really, really hot rotors and pads. I grabbed a water bottle and dumped a small amount on the discs and it instantly sizzled and evaporated. Well, Im not driving her with, what I thought was, a sticking rear caliper as the heat could fry the new bearings and seals I just installed so it was time for the first use of my insurance roadside assistance (12 years and numerous daily driven British vehicles and I never used it).
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The truck was driven up the bed and then strapped down. Several mini heart attacks later I had it parked in front of the repair shop. The mini heart attacks came from the numerous visions I had of the Disco flopping onto the road. The suspension is very flexy and with every turn, the truck leaned and I swear it was going to fall off. No amount of chains was going to keep that thing on there. Turns out that there were no issues with the install or newly sticking calipers. End float/ bearing load and everything were set up perfectly. The issue is with the Atlantic British rear brake rebuild kit I installed. Apparently the discs are thicker than stock. Combine that with pads that are thicker than stock and you make a wheel that will turn but pads that will drag. No damage done to bearings, seals, or discs and a new set of thinner pads were installed (had to go to the shop as I had no time or daylight to do it myself).

That was the end of my camping weekend...
 

Viggen

Just here...
Yeah, its George Washington national Forest. Started up one trail, my GF freaked out a little bit so we ended up cruising around some different roads. Ended up on setting up camp on Spruce Knob which is in West Virginia. Super nice area. Planning a return trip sometime soon hopefully.

Thanks. I love my Disco. Ill love it even more when I pick it up tomorrow.
 

suntinez

Explorer
Beautiful pics, thanks for sharing.

Soooo, what was really outside the tent? Bear? Neighbor? Chupacabra?

Let us know how the new pads work out.
 

Viggen

Just here...
Definitely a bear. I heard it and instantly grabbed the axe I had next to my cot. Maybe I should bring my .38 with me next time. Wont do all THAT much but would give that warm and fuzzy feeling. I got out of the tent first in the morning and saw a few paw prints. Quickly kicked them away so she wouldnt see them.
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
Definitely a bear. I got out of the tent first in the morning and saw a few paw prints. Quickly kicked them away so she wouldnt see them.

ROFL! Valuable learning point. I and most every guy reading this would have done the same thing... married 30 years and I'm less afraid of bears. :D

Glad to see you got to make it out but disappointed you had some traumas. Give us a holler next time you go out again and maybe the timing will work out better for ALCON.

Hey, noted your picture of the rear hatch and your Trasharoo; do you have the bag straps crossed like an X behind the tire or straight up and down like a back-pack?
 
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weaselox

Observer
Next time....

Viggen, next time you want to go out, shoot me a message. I go up that way all the time and would be more than willing to go out with you to insure you have a second vehicle and to show you around some of the trails.
 

BigAl

Expedition Leader
Looks like a fun weekend. I set my brakes on fire coming down off Spruce Knob in WV not far from where you were:ylsmoke:
 

Viggen

Just here...
Viggen, next time you want to go out, shoot me a message. I go up that way all the time and would be more than willing to go out with you to insure you have a second vehicle and to show you around some of the trails.

A second vehicle would be nice to show me around. I have no doubts that the truck could get me there and get me home again but once I got there, finding my way around was tough. I found Dunkle Hollow Rd. kind of by accident and then started probing around from there and ended up close to Spruce Mountain.

There were numerous Jeep groups staging in Harrisonburg to make runs out there and it made me wish that there were more Rover groups that organized trail rides more often. Rover guys seem to be "rally" folk where hundreds get together and clog everything up whereas I am more of a 10 to 20 truck grouping type of person where you have a couple who know the area, a couple to help recovery and a couple to help if something breaks.

ROFL! Valuable learning point. I and most every guy reading this would have done the same thing... married 30 years and I'm less afraid of bears. :D

Glad to see you got to make it out but disappointed you had some traumas. Give us a holler next time you go out again and maybe the timing will work out better for ALCON.

Hey, noted your picture of the rear hatch and your Trasharoo; do you have the bag straps crossed like an X behind the tire or straight up and down like a back-pack?

I figured for the future of camping with her, she better not know what really was there. The leaking was not expected but definitely not unexpected. It wasnt driven a lot by the previous owners so the more I drive it, the more shows up. The actual replacing of the parts and doing the work on it was pretty easy. The problem arose from poorly matched parts from a supplier that I wouldnt have known about without the actual experience. By the time I realized there was a problem with the new parts, the sun had set hours ago and I was closer (3 miles) to my indy LR shop than home to do the work. Add in that it was a Sunday night and I had work in the morning, I elected to just let someone I trusted remedy the situation.

I had it super cinched down like a back pack since the the straps sat really tightly between the lugs on the spare MT. I never thought about going in an 'X' in the back. I might try that. The way the spare attaches to the rear door might make it tough though. I have a piece of rope that I thread through the loops and around to the front as a just in case. I would probably run that no matter what the attachment style was.

If either know of any organized rides, let me know. Id be interested. The truck comes back to me today so Ill be looking for another run of some sort to test everything out before Rovers on the Rocks in a couple of weeks at Rausch.
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
I had it super cinched down like a back pack since the the straps sat really tightly between the lugs on the spare MT. I never thought about going in an 'X' in the back. I might try that. The way the spare attaches to the rear door might make it tough though. I have a piece of rope that I thread through the loops and around to the front as a just in case. I would probably run that no matter what the attachment style was.

If either know of any organized rides, let me know. Id be interested. The truck comes back to me today so Ill be looking for another run of some sort to test everything out before Rovers on the Rocks in a couple of weeks at Rausch.

That's what I thought... the bag was designed to have the straps crossed around the back of the tire and you should have no problem adjusting strap length and buckle location to compensate for the tire mounting bracket. You'll find it much more secure; secure enough to haul firewood to your next campsite over the road. It's very secure properly mounted even at highway speeds... ask me how I know. I hope it's not just "common rope;" an application like that needs to be ExPo certified, at least nothing less than recycled synthetic winch line. ;)

No worries, I'd like to hook up too but need to schedule something soon. End of November and December will be a no-go for the Tacoma... Toyota Corrosion-resistant Application and then the SAS!
 

Viggen

Just here...
Ill give the straps a shot. What will make it tough is the way the spare is mounted to the rear door. Its a very large piece of boxy sheetmetal that fills almost all of the inside of the rear wheel. The rope, I dare say, is not Expo approved. Its just regular, 1/2" diameter clothesline rope. It serves as a backup to the Trasharoo straps and as a line to dry towels and things on at the site. I would say that most of my truck would not be Expo approved. Its too big, has a completely wrong suspension for "overlanding," and isnt white.

SAS? Thats a big deal. Going leafs or coils?
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
:eek: Clothesline!? Better hope the mods don't see that - it'll get you banned! ;)

Radius arms with panhard and adjustable CO shocks; driver drop Trail Gear axle with ARB air locker.

I'm tired of problems with the CV axles which I feel is the trucks weak link. Going with a solid axle gives me enhanced capability, reliabiity, and durability. Plus, I don't want a whole lot of lift that leaves or other link options often give you. I'm getting too old to perform unnatural acts to get into the cab and I'm a firm believer in keeping the COG as low as reasonable. Nor am I interested in seeing how big a tire I can stuff under there either; I don't see going over 35's, especially with the 3RZ.
 

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