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  1. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Toyota Canada website's estimate states that it is based on the Canadian government's official methods. So, it must be a difference between US EPA and Canada methods for estimating mileage. Also, the Canada website also said "up to" the metric equivalent of 27 mpg (highway alone, rather than...
  2. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    For payload, my calcs (GVW - CW): GX550 (LC252): 1460lbs LC250: 1687lbs
  3. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    Toyota's turbo 4 cylinder (as tested in new Tacoma) has been beating EPA estimates in tests I've thus far seen. It'll be interesting to see how close to estimate the hybrid is, or isn't.
  4. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Yes, we now have EPA's official estimate. (Still not yours.)
  5. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    Yes, dimensionally and in overall design the 250 and 300 are very similar. We still await full specs on the US market LC250, so there's no way to compare its major components (diff sizes) and those of non-US LC250s and the LC300. The fact that Toyota put the 250 on Land Cruiser's classic...
  6. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    Hopefully a simple swap with the GX tank is feasible. The aux tank is such a pain: displaces spare tire, which then consumes cargo space or necessitates a heavy bumper that further erodes payload, etc. A 21 gallon tank from the factory would have been so much more elegant. Toyota had to...
  7. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    Stupid move, I agree.
  8. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    Towing in 6000 lbs. I expect the payload will stick. I calculated it from GVW - CW.
  9. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    I hear ya. It's the closest we'll ever see to a modernized 80 series, which is great. Problem is, my 80 series still work great. I imagine I'll pick one up in two or three years once the dust, hype, and prices settle -- a long-term replacement to one of our 80s.
  10. T-Willy

    2024 Land Cruiser in the USA?

    I was able to download a spec sheet ("download details") yesterday from the Toyota website. They've since removed that function. But, for the 1958, it shows: Payload of 1687 lbs Fuel capacity of 17.9 gallons MPG 22/25/23 yields a range of around 375-450 miles (600 - 725 kms). Overall, not...
  11. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    The question for me will be whether and how it is engineered for durability, reliability, and longevity, not similarity or dissimilarity to other vehicles. It could be that other models will be vastly more robust than their predecessors and less dissimilar to one another given the transition to...
  12. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Yes it was removed from the US website. They do not have an official US EPA mileage rating. It has not been removed from on the Canada website, where they do have an official govt. mileage rating.
  13. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    I have owned and driven Land Cruisers for more than three decades and know well their robustness. But that robustness was also paired, in the 100 and more so 200, with an increasing luxury bloat that badly taxed those trucks' capacities, utility, and value. Toyota force fed the US market...
  14. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Yes, much more component interchangeability on the new platform. Beyond wheelbases, which I expect will differ, it will be interesting to see how Toyota distinguishes between 4Runner (more recreational, I expect) and Land Cruiser (more robust staid tourer, I expect). That said, it bears...
  15. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Interesting hearsay. Toyota has published and not retracted the LC250 hybrid mileage estimate on its Canadian website, per Canadian govt. methodology. I too look forward to Toyota publishing LC250's EPA rating for the U.S.
  16. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    Seems like Toyota didn't get your memo. Maybe send that along? "This hybrid engine generates an electrifying 465 lb.-ft. of torque and enhanced fuel economy, with an estimated 8.7 L/100km† (27 mpg) to bring you confidence to cover even more ground."...
  17. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    To be clear, rear diff spec for the J250 hybrid in the US market have not been published. We do know that the non-hybrid Tacoma and J250 (non-hybrid, non-US market) will get 8.2; the Tacoma Trailhunter Hybrid, J252 and J300 get 9.5; Toyota upsized rear diffs on hybrid vs. gasser Tundras too...
  18. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    The Toyota Canada website is current and states 27 mpg in metric equivalents: https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/register-for-land-cruiser-updates It does not state that "Fuel economy estimates will be announced closer to Land Cruiser's on-sale date." Lack of published estimate for the US market...
  19. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    I expect that, given its combination of capability, reliability, longevity, capacity, and efficiency, the 1958 will be the best remote touring wagon ever offered in the U.S. market.
  20. T-Willy

    Lexus GX550 Overtrail vs. Grenadier or new Toyota Land Cruiser?

    False. Toyota's Canada website states that the 2.4L turbo hybrid Land Cruiser will achieve 27 mpg. That is a dramatic improvement in efficiency (and range) over the GX550 and any previous Land Cruiser offering in North America. Toyota's hybrid systems are extremely reliable and long-lived.
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