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I know they changed the spider gears, but it's not clear if the ring and pinion was changed. But I think the torsion bar set up was pretty close in durability to the old solid axle when left in stock or near-stock form.

It's not quite clear if they updated the ring and pinion in 2000. My understanding is that the spider gears were strengthened, but the R&P is still undersized for a such a heavy vehicle.

Yea the front ring and pinion just seem to be an unfortunate weak point on the 100 series, especially with the shock loads of ATRAC in the later models.

Why do you say most 100 series for sale are piles of crap? I haven't looked at many, but it seems like every 80 series for sale under 15k will be leaking everywhere.

I've seen a lot of complaints on various off road and Land Cruiser forums about the torsion bar set up in the front of the 100 series. I'd be curious to hear from 100 series owners if any of these criticisms are justified? I don't really have a problem with torsion bars myself - they're simple...

Idk, it was a highly respected Land Cruiser specialist who made the post shown above. Maybe it was a teething issue with the early ATRAC systems on the 100 series.

I've heard multiple accounts on ih8mud of ATRAC possibly overloading the ring and pinion on the 00+ 100 series (see below). This has made me look out for 98-99 examples with the rear locker to avoid the complexity of traction control. How much of a concern is this on the 100 series, as well as...

@Metcalf I just got 255/75/17 KM3s, which weigh 54.5 lbs each, so hopefully it should hold up ok with this set up, although I would've preferred the Yokohamas, which are 5 lbs lighter. I'm also thinking of getting some softer springs that would bring the lift down to 1.5'' or so to minimize...

Yeah people love to clown Land Rover for their dubious build quality and engineering, but what gets lost in all that talk is the gulf in the price of entry between a Disco and Land Cruiser is vast. An 80 or 100 series in the same condition as the truck posted above would go for at least $20k...

Yea people were telling me 7k max for this one, but Rover guys seem even cheaper than Cruiserheads. I can ask the owner what all he’s replaced. If it has a new fuel pump, water pump, etc it’d make the price more palatable. I’ve always thought paying a premium for a meticulously maintained...

Yes I’ve heard most of the issues (head gaskets, cylinder cavitation, 3 amigos, etc.) are on the Disco 2. Would you say they’re as “reliable” as an 80 series Land Cruiser? I’ve heard the CVs are a bit weak compared to the Cruiser in stock form.

That’s also true of Land Cruiser forums, at least to an extent. Replacing head gaskets and big end bearings as “maintenance” are big topics over on the 80 series section on Mud.

People have been telling me $8900 is too much for this one. What do people think is a fair value? It is tidy, but as y’all have said it’s still 25 years old..

FWIW the owners seems pretty diligent about coolant flushes and the like. I didn’t get a chance to talk about the radiator etc, though he had replaced a tstat as PM.

I just found the pictured 1998 Discovery 1 for sale here locally. It has 96,000 miles, and has been faithfully maintained by the owner and used mostly for highway commuting. He's asking $8900, which seems more than reasonable given the condition and miles. However, I've heard so many horror...

Yea that sounds like an acceptable amount of breakage to me. Like I said if I were doing the Rubicon every other weekend and/or driving into very remote areas regularly I would’ve stuck with the LC. There’s a reason companies like NATVEC use them for their tours out in Moab instead of a 4Runner...

I appreciate your insights, you’re just not making me feel good about getting rid of my LC haha. At the time I was tired of its land yacht driving experience and the vintage slushbox. I had to slam it into 2nd and scream up every little hill at 4K rpm. It also only averaged about 120 PSI through...

Yea I’m concerned the 4.88s would kill the drivability of this truck with the R150/V6 combo. Honestly I’m starting to wonder if having a non-SAS 4x4 is even worth it if the IFS is really that prone to breakage. In that case I might as well just have another Subaru and stick to the fire roads...

Well at least they didn’t have the crappy LBJ design like on the 1G Taco.

The pre-95 IFS was a more durable torsion bar design if I'm not mistaken, although it was stiffer than the later coilover designs.