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*Who's* nit-picking? I refuted the evidence, whereas you have just proved my exact point. How long will it take for Land Rover to emerge from the shadow of Lucas and Buick? Were they unreliable and not dependable? Absolutely - aside from the 1997 Defender I almost bought 20 years ago I never...

The fastest car in the world is always a rental.

JLR was actually on a bit of a relative tear sales wise...they set several personal bests in December 2019, especially in the US. Otherwise totally agree.

Yeah this saddens me a little. I love the Td6 engine - I think a 3.0L turbodiesel with between 250-300hp and 450-500lb-ft of torque is just about an ideal all-around engine for an SUV. It moves the D5 smartly, gets fantastic fuel economy, and is effortless on the trail. I generally get about...

Well, recall the D1 and D2 did just fine on 15 inch wheels and 70 series tires, with an outside diameter smaller than today's 32's offered standard on the D5.

"Audio/Communication/Entertainment/ Navigation (ACEN) is the most improved category (by 2.3 PP100), but still accounts for more problems than any other category in the study. Owners continue to cite problems with voice recognition, Bluetooth® connectivity and navigation systems" Let me know...

To be fair, the only objection about modern Land Rovers, if you read the articles, is the fear that they may be unreliable. Reliability is the Original Sin of Lucas that has yet to be atoned. And of those that have been reported on, it's largely - you may have guessed this on your own -...

Sorry, any time anyone says "you people" it's automatic.

Why of course, it's a closed cell foam pad you put under your $1,000 Pirellis to gently cradle them to keep from getting flat spots. ?? Also, Matt Farah has a great video of him driving a Countach and basically says the same thing - drive it enough and it won't catch on fire. Unfortunately...

Nope, SOTA updates. Just needs your home wifi or the built-in cellular connection. D5s are already getting remote diagnostics in the UK.

Sometimes daily driving vehicles is the thing that keeps them running. Let them sit in your garage on your foam tire cushions all winter and then take them out for a club autocross in June and that's when you run into problems. The Porsche 930 and air-cooled Turbos actually needed to have...

When you have a production capacity that can't top one million vehicles and only sell a few hundred thousand vehicles per year worldwide, what do you expect? One next to every Starbucks Tim Horton's? They've always been a low-volume manufacturer and always will be relatively speaking. Edited...

Yeah, we've been over this several times in the last 110+ pages. But because it's fun and I'm on a boring web call, I'll retort. The RRS which represents their current platform and mechanical technology rated higher than Acura (MDX) and Audi's (Q7) offerings in 3-year dependability by JD Power...

And they're not buying into that whale blubber oil-lamp nonsense either. They went blind reading the Bible by candle-light and they LIKED it!

Never said it did - what I contend is that they're reliable enough now for complexity not to matter. Complexity is okay when you engineer and test sufficiently to ensure reliability and durability. Land Rover tests wading depth at 133% of rated values, for example - they drove the Discovery...

Again, engineering and design are different things, like construction and architecture. The same construction company builds many different houses or buildings architected by different people. Same same. Jaguar has a different design boss than Land Rover, and personally I do hope they begin...

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: LOL, ok. :rolleyes:

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Ok, your definition of "discomfort" is different than mine I guess. Traveling in a vehicle with soft seats and comfy highway cruising and sleeping on a 3" closed cell foam mattress in a RTT or air cushion in the cargo area, and eating "real" whole foods ( not the store, the preparation) cooked...