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Calicamper--not to give you a hard time, really not, but I joined this forum out of a love of expeditions, something I've done for many years. I like and admire everyone here including you. You folks have built a fantastic forum. Now could we leave the politics, ethnocentrism, and celebrations...

I wouldn't be so quick to conclude that Ute campers are an inherently superior design. There's all that unused space in a pickup, true, and there are certainly applications to put it to use. But a Ute based build has drawbacks of its own, especially in distributing weight out and up as opposed...