01 Montero Sluggish and Whine during acceleration

AZnative24

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Hello Everybody!

I have a 2001 Montero (3.5L) with 130k miles that is giving me some trouble. First, the backstory.

This weekend I did a tune up. I removed the plenum, pulled the valve covers, and replaced the cover gaskets, oil tube seals, plugs, wires, and both the upper and lower plenum gaskets. Put it all together and it was running like junk with occasional backfires. I drove to the parts store (2 miles round trip) to get the code read which showed random misfires. On the way there I could barely do 35-40mph. On the way back I lost almost all power and couldn’t exceed 20mph. This was right after a backfire followed by some “mechanical noises.” Once I got home I found the correct firing order and corrected that issue. Started it up and it idled perfectly. About a block down the road I lost power and an extreme whine started. It begins just above 2000 rpms and gets worse the higher the rpms go.

Back in the drive way I quadruple checked all vacuum lines with no issues. I searched for hours for a leak but couldn’t find anything. I located the source of the whine to somewhere very near or underneath the drivers side valve cover. Eventually, I began to dig deeper. Here is a list of what I’ve checked.

- Pulled serpentine belt and started the engine. The whine persists.

-Disconnected PCV with the engine running. No change.

- Concerned about the misfires I pulled the timing belt inspection covers and verified timing was correct (there is still a slight misfire at higher rpms). Compression felt strong while I was manually turning the engine.

- Sprayed starting fluid near all known vacuum connections, lines, and gaskets with no changes in idle speed.

- Pulled the plenum and drivers side valve cover again. Discovered the shop who did my timing belt 10 months ago pushed the old camshaft seal into the crankcase and then installed the new seal. The old seal had wedged itself on the camshaft. Removed the old seal, inspected for internal damage/debris, and put everything together with proper torque specs. Whine and power loss persists.

What am I missing? The whine literally sounds like a chimpanzee; very loud and very obnoxious. There is also a sucking noise coming from that general area on the drivers side but I cant find anything to indicate where. I’ve searched and searched for a connection or hose that I missed upon reassembly but there just isn’t anything.
 

normal_dave

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Purely guess work for us in the cheap seats. Confession time: I've never separated the upper plenum to replace the gasket, only the lower. (Lazy). Take a closer look there. I always have a fight with the EGR valve. It helps to leave all the bracket bolts loose until the two bolt EGR fitting is started. It's also easy to improperly torque the upper to lower plenum bolts. Right pattern and torque setting matters. I will also admit I've chased sounds to where I thought they were isolated, replaced pulley bearing, etc. only to discover I was somehow fooled, and the source was on the other side, or bottom of the engine bay. Have you used the stethoscope, (or like me the redneck wood dowel to the side of the ear...great way to impale yourself, just sayin').

Borrowing Michael Brown's handy link to factory service manual:
FSM link
 

AZnative24

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I used the trusty screwdriver to try to locate the sound but was not successful.

However, the mystery was solved earlier today. The reason we were not finding anything in the engine bay was because our focus was too narrow. Naturally when you pull something apart, put to together and it doesn’t operate as it should you focus on what you last touched. Turns out the transmission coincidentally took a dump with my recent repairs. All gears were working fine and there hasn’t been any slipping, grinding, or stuck gears. I had the usual Montero 2k rpm driveline vibe but nothing had been giving me cause for concern.

The whine being directly related to engine rpms can be explained by a failing trans pump and the fluid is burnt with metal shavings. Transmission is being swapped at this moment.
 

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