2009 Land Cruiser = Turbo Diesel! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

[SOAZ]

:eatchicke :eatchicke :eatchicke I want to eat it up! I'll be able to afford one of these just a skoesh after 2015.http://bp1.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RedAveUvJRI/AAAAAAAAEqc/378XuQJlmdE/s1600-h/2009LC.jpg
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/03/2009-land-cruiser-scooped.html

 

[adventureduo]

Yeah, like it will come here....... im not getting excited at all - yet.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I think it will be a nice ride, hopefully we get them available with diesels.

BTW, what MTB race are you doing? Yes, I surfed over to your blog...

 

[Pskhaat]

Despite the fact that it looks like a fat Highslander, the diesel at torque peak of 1200 rpm is quite nice.

 

[ChuckB]

Man, you got me all excited when i read the title! But its not confirmed yet for the US with the diesel? :088:

 

[SOAZ]

I'm going to do the white tanks race. Its called the white tanks Whirlewind.
http://www.mbaa.net/racing/index.html
Should be fun. I just tuned up my bike a little. I've never done a mtn bike race before.
Have you?

I think it will be a nice ride, hopefully we get them available with diesels.

BTW, what MTB race are you doing? Yes, I surfed over to your blog...

 

[SOAZ]

Yah, I doubt we'll ever see the diesel too, but i know that you land cruiser guys would love to get one. So would I... when my 4runner falls apart someday.

 

[4Rescue]

really in all likelyhood, we should see a slew of Diesel rigs next year with all the talk about the regulations finaly making European motors smogable here in the states. Bout time too since I've been home from Australia I've been missing my TD HJ75 quite alot.

SOAZ: Is this Mt. Bike race DH? IF not skip it, Spandex and Skinny tires are for Euro's :26_7_2:

 

[slooowr6]

SOAZ: Is this Mt. Bike race DH? IF not skip it, Spandex and Skinny tires are for Euro's :26_7_2:

:REExeSquatsHL1: going up is the fun part. :elkgrin:

 

[calamaridog]

I'll settle for the 5.7L V8 and 6spd transmission:steak:

We can all dream right?

 

[whitethaiger]

It doesn't look likely that we'll see the Toyota diesels soon. Here is what a company spokes man was quoted saying in a recent SA article about new clean diesel technology:

"Toyota is not looking to promote diesels soon in North America. Although we continue to develop advanced diesels for the European and Asian markets, we don't think that the US market is receptive to the technology and won't be for some time."

 

[Pskhaat]

Completely doesn't suprise me that statement. I swear it's a Toyota USA executive bias or bigotry. I don't know why that bias exists, but there's no business reason of which I can possibly think to not bring them here, especially now.

 

[haven]

Toyota needs light truck diesel

I think USA Land Cruisers will have a diesel option in the 2009 model year. That's when diesel emissions standards in Europe and USA will be very similar.

Toyota needs to have a diesel option for the Tundra to keep pace with its competitors. Chevy (Duramax/Isuzu), Dodge (Cummins), and Ford (Navistar, presuming the two companies stop filing lawsuits against each other) are all planning to add V6 or small V8 diesel engines to their light pickups (i.e.,, the non-HD versions) in the next few years. The primary reason is to increase fuel mileage.

Toyota is supposed to be working with Hino on such an engine. Hino provides the 3 liter I4 diesel that Toyota uses in the HiLux pickups and Innova vans sold in Asia and Europe, and the 4.2L I6 diesel used in the Land Cruiser everywhere except North America. These engines will need to meet the European emissions standards in 2009, too.

Chip Haven

 

[DaveInDenver]

I think USA Land Cruisers will have a diesel option in the 2009 model year.

That's pretty optimistic, do you have anything to base that on? I've always heard the Toyota party line, that the US does not want diesels. I imagine they have to stick to that story rigidly because if the rumor got out that in 2009 or '10 or whatever we'll be able to get 1KZ or 1HZ, the current sales would probably take a hit. Toyota is a very conservative company and they aren't gonna do anything until they are sure the market will be there. We within the 4x4 enthusiast community tend to not really be a good indicator of the market as a whole, where most people could care less as long their car starts and it's not too expensive to fill it. The infrastructure right now has diesel higher than gas and adding a huge surge of new cars and trucks would make diesel prices go even higher. I think Toyota is probably right, if it costs you an extra $10 per tank, people are too short sighted to see that they are getting 5 or 10 MPG better. Do a random sample of people next time you're filling up. Ask them what the mileage was on their last 5 tanks. Most won't have a clue. Ask most people what they think about diesels and they are going to say slow and stinky, that's the real market opinion. It's changing and probably rapidly, but it's gonna take a few years and my guess is Toyota will let everyone else take the risk of getting the US market to accept diesels.

 

[Pskhaat]

Toyota will let everyone else take the risk of getting the US market to accept diesels.

But...what business-wise is the risk today of having a diesel option with parts and processes that already exist?