97 Defender D90 $11K ??

[haven]

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=253187207

Here's an immaculate D90 for sale by a private party in Amarillo TX.
49,000 miles! If this is real, it could be a great buy.

Any ExPo members in Amarillo who can check this out?

 

[Schattenjager]

That HAD to be recently dried out from Ike, or maybe Katrina - what a deal - something has to be wrong here. If not, I couldn't imagine it staying for sale at that price more than, say... 15 minutes. Very curious!
:lurk:

 

[Dendy Jarrett]

I believe this to be a scam ad.

This looks exactly like a truck that Susan at Park City 4X4 has listed.

These scammers really gripe my ... ehem.

Dendy

 

[parkcity4x4classics]

Sorry Guys, we have this truck for $41750. Some scammer has it posted on AutoTrader, we notified them (AutoTrader's Fraud Link) 3 days ago, but they still have not taken it down.

 

[hrjaw]

this really has become a big issue with these scammers. I ran into the same issue last week with someone trying to sell an 05 Volvo V70 with 40,000 miles for $7,000. if it sounds to good to be true...

 

[haven]

So the supposed Amarillo poster is hoping to get
unsuspecting people to send a deposit on the vehicle?

I sent email feigning interest, and will report what happens.

______________

"Walking from your house, to your Jeep, to the bar, is not an adventure"

No, but walking from the bar to your Jeep and trying to drive home could be!

 

[hrjaw]

["Walking from your house, to your Jeep, to the bar, is not an adventure"

No, but walking from the bar to your Jeep and trying to drive home could be![/QUOTE]


:jump:

 

[haven]

I got a reply to my email, obviously sent by an auto-responder. The reply included lots more photos and text describing how to purchase the vehicle. Here's the important part:

"Price is $11,250 . Title is clear. I will make this deal only trough eBay Motors Vehicle Purchase Program because I am away with my job here in Canada. Before leaving I had prearranged shipping with eBay and DAS so my presence isn't necessary. The car is in a warehouse of DAS, ready for delivery."

DAS is Dependable Auto Shippers, a company that often does business with people buying and selling through eBay Motors. I called DAS, and they verified that DAS does not have a warehouse to store vehicles. They just pick up and deliver.

Now the question is how to find the perpetrators of the scam. I've got an email sent from an AOL account. but GMail doesn't let me see the IP routing of the message to know where it really came from. I suppose Google would make this information available to law enforcement agencies only.

Chip Haven

 

[02TahoeMD]

My frist thought on any internet scammer like that would be Nigerians, they are infamous for doing purchase scams on the internet. And it is almost impossible to prosecute them for their crimes when they are an entire ocean and continent away.

Chris Hansen, the " To Catch a Predator " guy did a short series "To Catch A Theif " tracking down these internet scum, and interviewing their victims. Was interesting stuff.

I saw a thread on another forum where someone successfully played with these guys, he generated his own fake bank checks and strung the scammer along for a good bit. It was a very funny read.

 

[chrismc]

Now the question is how to find the perpetrators of the scam. I've got an email sent from an AOL account. but GMail doesn't let me see the IP routing of the message to know where it really came from. I suppose Google would make this information available to law enforcement agencies only.

Chip Haven

In Gmail, open the message. Click the down arrow in the upper-right-hand corner and select "Show original". This will display the message in its entirety, including all mail routing headers.

 

[mountainpete]

I got a reply to my email, obviously sent by an auto-responder. The reply included lots more photos and text describing how to purchase the vehicle. Here's the important part:

"Price is $11,250 . Title is clear. I will make this deal only trough eBay Motors Vehicle Purchase Program because I am away with my job here in Canada. Before leaving I had prearranged shipping with eBay and DAS so my presence isn't necessary. The car is in a warehouse of DAS, ready for delivery."

DAS is Dependable Auto Shippers, a company that often does business with people buying and selling through eBay Motors. I called DAS, and they verified that DAS does not have a warehouse to store vehicles. They just pick up and deliver.

Now the question is how to find the perpetrators of the scam. I've got an email sent from an AOL account. but GMail doesn't let me see the IP routing of the message to know where it really came from. I suppose Google would make this information available to law enforcement agencies only.

Chip Haven

Chip - ask him where in Canada he is.

 

[haven]

Chris, Thanks for the GMail tip.

I checked all the IP addresses in the email header.
They are all owned by AOL.

Next stop is AOL admin support.

 

[MEUSOC]

the phone # in the ad is an Amarillo church fax...

 

[Dendy Jarrett]

Well, obviously, I spend too much time looking at Rovers online to have recognized the truck from Susan's place.

It is certainly a buyers beware market on the internet these days.

I hate that all trust has gone and we all have to be vigilant these days.

Oh well, the times we live in. Wish we could all get together and scam the scammer back (i.e.: lead him to believe we have cash, but want to hand it off in person, arrange a place, see if he takes the bait, and all of us meet him there and beat the crap out of him), but alas, that wouldn't solve anything other than to make us feel like we took a pound of flesh out of the guy.

The sad thing is that older folks that still trust are getting taken for everything they own by these types.

Sad really.

D

 

[The Swiss]

I got a reply to my email, obviously sent by an auto-responder. The reply included lots more photos and text describing how to purchase the vehicle. Here's the important part:

"Price is $11,250 . Title is clear. I will make this deal only trough eBay Motors Vehicle Purchase Program because I am away with my job here in Canada. Before leaving I had prearranged shipping with eBay and DAS so my presence isn't necessary. The car is in a warehouse of DAS, ready for delivery."

DAS is Dependable Auto Shippers, a company that often does business with people buying and selling through eBay Motors. I called DAS, and they verified that DAS does not have a warehouse to store vehicles. They just pick up and deliver.

Now the question is how to find the perpetrators of the scam. I've got an email sent from an AOL account. but GMail doesn't let me see the IP routing of the message to know where it really came from. I suppose Google would make this information available to law enforcement agencies only.

Chip Haven

There are a couple Jeep Wrangler listings on Craigslist following exactly the same pattern. Within a week, two different women listed the exact same TJ with the same pics (supposedly in GA, under palm trees). Can't these scammers imagine that lot of people scanning Craigslist etc are regular junkies????