Age vs. Mileage

AndrewLarson

New member
What do you all think can be a better factor in determining reliability? Age or mileage? I realize in the end if can kind of be a crap shoot. Reason I ask is I found a 2010 Chevy Express AWD with 220k miles on it, was a fleet vehicle used for sales. I tend to stay away from high mileage but a vehicle this new seems not too bad and it is the right price.
 

Bikersmurf

Expedition Leader
What Engine does it have? What work has been done to it?

At that high mileage I'd want to see the service records... unless the price was cheap enough that I could replace the motor, trans, and drive train, and still come out ahead.

Resale will also take a big hit. Less of a concern if you're not going to resell it. What are your plans for it?
 

AndrewLarson

New member
5.3 V8. No idea of the work. Just talked to the guy selling it and it sounds like it was a fleet auction vehicle purchased by a dealer and then this guy. He says there is no service records on it, was recently checked out by a mechanic who said it was in sound condition, and replaced an O2 sensor. Asking $6k for it. I expect I would have some sort of major repair coming up soon. Looking to do a campervan setup and drive it around for a few years and probably sell it afterward, so the resale value is one of my bigger concerns for mileage. Might have to just continue the search.
 

wjeeper

Active member
I just went through this myself! I just picked up a 2007 AWD Express with 190k miles on the ticker and I don't regret it...........yet:elkgrin: I guess I am still stuck in the mindset that at about 100k miles a vehicle is nearing the end of its life

  • Its a Chevy 5.3 motor, they only made about a billion of them. Cheap and plentiful! On car-part.com you can find take-outs with less than 100k on them for less than $1000 any day of the week! $700 will get you a trans with similar miles! So for a lower initial purchase price you can afford to replace some major components along the way.
  • With that kind of mileage for the year they have pounded out some serious highway miles :Wow1: Highway miles are easy miles.
  • I personally think that letting a car sit is just as bad as actually getting it out and using it.
  • My brother has 180k on his and has only replaced the alternator, battery and I think done the brakes
  • My van has 190k and it still has the factory alternator, starter, exhaust.......its practically all factory except for the stripped out drain plug. I think the mileage on our vans and the amount of components that are OE speak volumes for how rigs are built now.
  • In looking at online classifieds there are lots of higher mileage Express/ Savana units out there commanding high prices
  • I know there are a few expo members building higher mile AWD's without regrets
 

mikracer

Adventurer
If you're considering resale value, I would look for a lower mileage van. After you drive it for a couple years, that van will have upwards of 250k+ miles.
 

simple

Adventurer
Regarding the age issue. Gaskets drying out was mentioned. Another thing that is a funny one is gravity. Gravity doesn't seem like much because were all used to it but it is a significant force constantly pulling on all the parts and pieces and takes it's toll over time. :coffeedrink:
 

agelessGIANT

Observer
I'm with wjeeper on this. I bought a 2003 Savana with 193k on it with little history...fleet vehicle sold to the guy I bought it from. The availability of cheaper major components wast the deal maker on this van. There are a lot of high mileage vans which says good things about them and there are a lot of parts available. I have been taking care of replacing all the things that wear out but I'm happy with the bones of the van I bought. I also payed next to nothing for the rarity of the van I have so I wasn't too worried about fixing things as they come up.. Right after buying it I put almost 3k miles on it in 3 days driving across the country... It now has almost 205k on it. It's a little beat up here and there but very capable. It was a great decision and one I don't regret. Obviously YMMV with any vehicle ;)
 

4Fox

Observer
Fleet vehicles can be tricky. Sure they are maintained regularly, but coming from a guy who worked on ambulances for over 10 years, we didn't treat them very nice...
 

Mwilliamshs

Explorer
Things I consider with any motorized purchase: age, mileage, exposure. Age is just that, how old is it? Mileage can also be hours, or use. And exposure is whether or not the item has been stored indoors or out, in a salted winter environment or not, etc. For me exposure matters most, followed by mileage, then age. I tend to prefer a very very specific age of vehicle and seek it intentionally, then select an example within a given mileage range depending on its exposure. Example: I like the 7.3 PSD Ford used from 99-03 in their SuperDuty trucks. I like the older ones too but prefer the SD. I went out looking for a 99-03 CCDRW truck and found one a few states away, bought it, I'll own it as long as possible. It was on the newer end of my range (02) and had lower miles than most and had very very little exposure (always garaged). It wasn't very cheap but it was very high on the other lists so I bought it. Example 2: I like the EB Ford Vans and I like the Sportsmobile PH tops and I like the Ford 4.9l I-6. I went looking for this combination (as new as possible or with as little exposure as possible being my preference) and found one a few states away, bought it, I'll own it as long as possible. It has very low miles, is very old, and had moderate exposure. I got it very cheap. Example 3: I like air-cooled dual-sport motorcycles and I like 6 speed transmissions and I like the 250-500cc range. I went looking for a pair and found one a few states away to the West and one a few states away to the East. I'll own them as long as possible. One is the last year made and the other is several years older. The newer one has more miles but less exposure and the older has few miles but sat out. Both were cheap. Example 4: I wanted a small scooter to take advantage of the best parking on campus. <49cc and automatic trans makes it legally a bicycle in my state. I wanted as much cargo capacity as possible and secure storage. I wanted as much power as possible. I found the model with a 2-stroke 49cc engine, auto trans, front and rear racks available, locking glove box and underseat storage, and started looking for one. I found 3. 1 was very very nice but as much as a new scooter (that sucks in all my categories) 2 was the middle of the road in every category, and 3 was dirt cheap but needed several fixes. I went with dirt cheap and had fun tinkering my way to a super reliable, cheap to operate and maintain means of transportation that saves me over 8 miles per week of walking to and from my parked vehicle and saves me $ on both parking and fuel.

It's a balancing act: new or old, high or low miles, high or low exposure, high or low cost. I buy things on purpose and for non-aesthetic reasons. The 7.3 PSD is the best balance of power and reliability I can find in a LDT with a nice interior and features. The EB has the most space, the PH the best balance of space and easiness to park and the 4.9 is dead-nuts reliable and good on fuel. The Suzuki DR350SE is air-cooled, has a 6 speed, has good power and very decent suspension, and is very reliable, parts are available, etc. I'm not your typical 30 year old bachelor who buys stuff to impress the ladies....which brings us to the 2-stroke scooter LOL I buy what I know I can depend on for years to come.
 
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ZMagic97

Explorer
I see you're in Flag: has this been in AZ for a good time? Being in Phoenix, I have driven many vehicles with different combinations of years and miles behind them, but location is always a big part to me (rust, area it's driven in, heat/cold..etc).

The 5.3 is a good motor, I assume the 4L60E is delivering the power? If so, the trans is known to be a POS to some, and pretty decent to others. All about how it's driven and cared for if you ask me.
 

KYC

Adventurer
Take into consideration the cost of materials for your camper van conversion.

Resale value would probably be dogsh*t.

Wait for a better one. They are out there if you are patient.
 

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