All Pro Lower Control Arms

[teotwaki]

Mine just arrived today! Also bought the Mini "skid plates" for the upper mounting brackets. Made from 1.5" x 2" x 0.188" DOM tube with OEM rubber bushings (no squeaky poly) for a factory ride



The little skid plates protect the thin steel factory brackets

when installed they'll look something like this

 

[Andrew Walcker]

SWEET!!!:26_34_3:

Nothing like a new toy to play with!

 

[teotwaki]

Yeah! Would have felt better if I had them before Big Bear! As long as I get them in before I pretzyl the factory links...

 

[xcmountain80]

Those are nice! I Like the square tubing.

Aaron

 

[teotwaki]

Here is a rough idea of the thickness of stock LCAs. The one on the right is stock at 0.090" and is seam welded

 

[teotwaki]

All Pro links installed

Comparison shot; twice the unsprung weight but worth it. Note the difference in brake line
brackets/mounts.
This is important as I have extended sway bar links that keep the sway bar at
normal alignment with my rear lift setup.









I didn't really like the simple tab style brake line bracket mount. Toyota's design should be
copied to keep the line at the same height.


Stock setup for comparison with better clearance between the link and the brake line


and the bracket protectors won't quite fit.. I need to call Terry at Al Pro
and see if there are any options for me otherwise I'll have to sell them to an FJ owner.

note that the bolt hole is off if you want the top left tip to butt up to the frame

or to get the hole to line up the top left tip won't line up properly so FJC link brackets on the
frame must be different in some dimensions


or my error somehow....??

At least I have some beefy LCAs so I won't have to worry about carnage!

The rest can be figured out eventually.

 

[devinsixtyseven]

Perhaps one of those little carbide rotary cutting bits for a drill, and just hog out the hole a little? Had to do that on a skid plate to clear a rivet, it takes some time but it works.

-Sean

 

[Super Doody]

Those control are pretty beefy but really disappointing to find about fitment problems AFTER you purchase the product during installation.

All Pro is notorious for this. Their rear locker skid for Tacomas hits gas tank during extreme flex, their bolt on SAS kit is a joke just ask Hytenor on TTORA and their wrap around rear bumper doesn't for allow any space for the wrench used to crank down the spare tire.

 

[teotwaki]

Those control are pretty beefy but really disappointing to find about fitment problems AFTER you purchase the product during installation.

All Pro is notorious for this. Their rear locker skid for Tacomas hits gas tank during extreme flex, their bolt on SAS kit is a joke just ask Hytenor on TTORA and their wrap around rear bumper doesn't for allow any space for the wrench used to crank down the spare tire.

I can't say anything about the other issues but on this topic I think the culprit is small differences in the FJC and the 4Runner. Both use the same OEM LCA's so the ALL-Pro LCAs fit just fine but the brake brackets were not well executed.

The frame bracket "skids" are another issue where no OEM part exists to copy. I have exchanged a number of e-mails with All-Pro's owner and I am inclined to just cut off the little "ramps" on these skids as the benefits minor and the fit problems are annoying.

 

[Super Doody]

I can't say anything about the other issues but on this topic I think the culprit is small differences in the FJC and the 4Runner. Both use the same OEM LCA's so the ALL-Pro LCAs fit just fine but the brake brackets were not well executed.

The frame bracket "skids" are another issue where no OEM part exists to copy. I have exchanged a number of e-mails with All-Pro's owner and I am inclined to just cut off the little "ramps" on these skids as the benefits minor and the fit problems are annoying.

Good luck. IMO, buyer shouldn't be doing R&D on someone's product unless the its made clear to the buyer. All the R&D should've been taken care of before product release.

 

[teotwaki]

Good luck. IMO, buyer shouldn't be doing R&D on someone's product unless the its made clear to the buyer. All the R&D should've been taken care of before product release.

The skids were sold as "FJC" skids. I elected to buy them as I thought they should fit and the All-Pro folks thought they should fit too. No one tricked me into being a Beta tester.

If you have a bone to pick with All-Pro maybe you should start a new thread? If you have actual useful technical advice to offer I am all ears.

 

[big sky trapper]

Thats something at some point we all face playing with trucks like this. Generally I build alot if not most of my own stuff. I have never purchased one aftermarket "offroad" part that did not need some modding to fit perfect. To me it kinda come with the game were playing. BUT parts such as these should have been a whole lot closer.

If I understand what there purpose is to protect the arm joint then I would grind/weld to fit. Esp if there is no other part avail and that area is a weekness. But as well If you have or a buddy has a welder... could BBQ and beer time and make some from scratch looks simple enough ...

 

[teotwaki]

Thats something at some point we all face playing with trucks like this. Generally I build alot if not most of my own stuff. I have never purchased one aftermarket "offroad" part that did not need some modding to fit perfect. To me it kinda come with the game were playing. BUT parts such as these should have been a whole lot closer.

If I understand what there purpose is to protect the arm joint then I would grind/weld to fit. Esp if there is no other part avail and that area is a weekness. But as well If you have or a buddy has a welder... could BBQ and beer time and make some from scratch looks simple enough ...

My take is that the new lower control arms give me a lot of strength over the OEMs and I can get the brake line brackets fixed when I find a local welder.

The skids help to protect the flimsy factory brackets and I do not know of another commercial source for them. I am probably going to cut off the little lip-ramps and live with the fitment issues. The passenger side skid fits better than the driver's side and I cannot say if it is All-Pro's fault or just a difference between the FJC and 4Runner. My Downey skid plate was made for Tacos, modified for FJCs and took a few more mods for my 4th gen 4Runner. In the end it saved me a whole bunch of money and suffered a nice big ding where my oil pan would be. The factory skid would have not saved me. The "pain and suffering" of making an aftermarket part properly fit did pay off. :wings: