camodog
Adventurer
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/am...n-value-1623325163/1627526937/+andrewpcollins
Let the debating begin.
Let the debating begin.
America's Best 4x4
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LocoCoyote
World Citizen
very subjective list.....would love to see some actual math behind those scores
Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
Everybody is allowed to have an opinion.
...and one size doesn't fit all.
...and one size doesn't fit all.
Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
Seems like a well thought out comparison to me.
I like they included interior storage space, load capacity and range - 3 extremely important qualities for an overland vehicle.
I love the Wrangler, but I would never argue it's "The best".
It's better at some things, worse at some things, and everyone needs to weigh up their needs against that list of pros and cons.
-Dan
I like they included interior storage space, load capacity and range - 3 extremely important qualities for an overland vehicle.
I love the Wrangler, but I would never argue it's "The best".
It's better at some things, worse at some things, and everyone needs to weigh up their needs against that list of pros and cons.
-Dan
Ryanmb21
Expedition Leader
I agree.
EugeneTheTJ
Tar Heel
#2 has a typo which renders the entire article void.
teotwaki
Excelsior!
it is always distracting to have a "professional" web site present any article at all that has incorrect word use, spelling and grammar. :Wow1:
you're not your
vehicles' not vehicles
heavily laden vehicle not heaven laden vehicle
rich man's game not rich mans game
Jeep has sacrificed not Jeep have sacrificed
you won't lose not you wont loose
you're not your
vehicles' not vehicles
heavily laden vehicle not heaven laden vehicle
rich man's game not rich mans game
Jeep has sacrificed not Jeep have sacrificed
you won't lose not you wont loose
da10A
Adventurer
It didn't make the cut, I think it was right under the honda element
GetOutThere
Adventurer
Some of his scoring is way off.
Trailhawk gets a 1 on range (900km), but my JKUR gets a 3(500km)? That makes lots of sense...
Payload for the Frontier and LR4 are virtually the same. LR4 gets a 5, Frontier gets a 3. Payload for the Grand Cherokee is roughly 400LBs less than the Frontier, yet they scored equally.
According to his scoring system, durability measures likelihood of rattles, as well as likelihood of the vehicle falling apart after hard use. Two different things right there.
No points for ride comfort in an overland vehicle is a mistake in my opinion, and so is a lack of category for after market support.
No full size rigs, basically because he doesn't like them.
Way too subjective.
Trailhawk gets a 1 on range (900km), but my JKUR gets a 3(500km)? That makes lots of sense...
Payload for the Frontier and LR4 are virtually the same. LR4 gets a 5, Frontier gets a 3. Payload for the Grand Cherokee is roughly 400LBs less than the Frontier, yet they scored equally.
According to his scoring system, durability measures likelihood of rattles, as well as likelihood of the vehicle falling apart after hard use. Two different things right there.
No points for ride comfort in an overland vehicle is a mistake in my opinion, and so is a lack of category for after market support.
No full size rigs, basically because he doesn't like them.
Way too subjective.
libarata
Expedition Leader
His payload also factors in the space to stuff things in. I never has an issue with anything in the rear of my Frontier. I highly doubt this joker actually drove any of these vehicles. He is just pulling specs off of the interwebz and somehow coming up with four digit scores.
Hilldweller
SE Expedition Society
He might have driven them a bit but I doubt he overlanded or lived out of them for a couple of weeks at a time. That's how you get to know what your rig can/can't do.
This is what I have now. Pretty easy to live out of for a 2 week boondoggle.
Drop the trailer and wheel where you want.
The Jeep replaced a Power Wagon though. Life with the Power Wagon and trailer was easier.... ....but once the trailer was dropped, there were too many places the PW couldn't fit.
But I could bring EVERYTHING with me. Infinite storage capacity.
Before that I had a 2-door JK and a Conqueror. This was my most capable duo for overcamping.
But we went on two week trips on this thing with no problems too.
And two weeks 2-up on this thing took some planning and clever packing but we did it often.
So, comfort, range, packing space, blah blah blah. It really boils down to what you like. Cause almost anything can get the job done if you're clever about it.
Just go out and do it. Travel. Explore.
teotwaki
Excelsior!
EXACTLY!