Campfires! What, Where and When?

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Ok, we were recently in DV and had some folks giving us some crap for having firewood saying that fires are strictly forbidden and such.

On my map is says that GROUND fires are prohibited.

I took that as fires on the ground, as to not catch and spread.

We brought a steel drum (with feet on it so its not on the ground) and burned the wood in that. We packed most of the larger (burnt) pieces out with us and buried the ashes. All flames were contained at all times.

I dont see any problems with this. Does anyone else?

I am curious what the proper procedure is here.

Every book, pamphlet, guide i have on DV says something a little different, but does not say the word "Prohibited" anywhere.!

Whats the real deal and where are ya getting that info!!

Thanks

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[articulate]

Good questions. If you ever wonder, simply call the ranger office at the park you want to visit. Specifically though:
The NPS tends to differentiate between camping in established campgrounds and camping in the backcountry.
For instance, there are several established campgrounds within DV:
http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/camping.htm

And for backcountry camping in DV:
http://www.nps.gov/deva/planyourvisit/upload/Backcountry%20Camping.pdf

According to these sources, campfires are prohibited unless in one of the fire pits in one of the established campgrounds. This rule tends to be pretty standard within National Parks. There might be an exception out there that I don't know of.

Hope it helps, bro!

Mark
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[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Hey Mark

Excellent Links! That clears things up quite a bit! I apprecite it!

I have always thought of "Backcountry" as only accessable by foot and not 4x4 trails.

I guess Backcounty in this case means anything not "Established" as a campground?

Thanks for the reply! I will look into this some more!

Cant go camping without :campfire:

 

[articulate]

Actually, they also set boundaries to demarkate backcountry from...uh, whatever non-backcountry is. It might be on that map.

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[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Actually, they also set boundaries to demarkate backcountry from...uh, whatever non-backcountry is. It might be on that map.

:rockon:

Thanks Mark

Yeah, we saw "Wilderness Boundary" signs and we were "inside" of them

Wilderness Boundary, Backcountry Boundary, geeeeeez

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[Steve Curren]

If you have to have a fire, check out the ones with fake logs and propane. I used that type on the North Rim in the backcountry and the Rangers who came by liked it and gave no grief. I bought mine at Sportsman's Warehouse.

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[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

If you have to have a fire, check out the ones with fake logs and propane. I used that type on the North Rim in the backcountry and the Rangers who came by liked it and gave no grief. I bought mine at Sportsman's Warehouse.

:campfire:

That is actually an Awesome idea! I wonder if they have a semi-realistic portable one, that sure would solve the issue of lugging around all that damn firewood!

Do they throw off much heat?

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[calamaridog]

If you have to have a fire, check out the ones with fake logs and propane. I used that type on the North Rim in the backcountry and the Rangers who came by liked it and gave no grief. I bought mine at Sportsman's Warehouse.

:campfire:

An excellent idea.

 

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I did a quick search because I got curious.....and this popped up.

I'm no expert on these at all and have never used one.


"Campfire in a Can"................

Here is another one.................. http://www.portafire.net/



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[Steve Curren]

The unit is totally portable and gives out enough heat for a moderate night, nothing like a real rip roaring fire but it gives the illusion of a real one and is simple to operate. The box it comes in is 18" square and fits nicely in the back of the Jeep or the Chaser. Check out Camp Chef site for another one..

 

[Scenic WonderRunner]

I just searched for a budget priced unit and found this one for $59 bucks.


Camp Chef Stove with Campfire Logs - 60K BTU High Pressure.......

details.............

Camp Chef Stove with Campfire Logs - 60K BTU High Pressure
$59.95 $120.00 Save 50% Item #73760


Closeouts. Camp Chef stove includes the high-output single burner stove plus the stovetop campfire accessory. Just because there's no firewood doesn't mean you can't have a campfire.
Includes UL approved hose and regulator
Sturdy four-leg base reverses for compact travel and storage
60K BTU
Stove diameter: 15"
Stove height: 16"
Stove weight: 13 lb. 8 oz.
Log top diameter: 14-5/8"
Log top weight: 13 lb. 6 oz.
Materials:
Cast iron stove
Coated iron log top and ceramic logs
Polyester carry bag for campfire log top
Closeouts. China.
Recommended for use with cookware with an effective diameter of 13".
Must ship UPS ground, within the continental U.S. only.

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Very Cool!

Thanks guys! There are a lot of options out there! I am definitely going to look into this more!

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[Scenic WonderRunner]

Kevin.........

You are so good!........I know you could make a better one for even less $$$$

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Very Cool!

Thanks guys! There are a lot of options out there! I am definitely going to look into this more!

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[Robthebrit]

very cool (or hot???) guys.. how many typically carry a large propane tank when camping? I know Scott does but I was trying to get away from gas and move to liquid fuel but maybe a larger refillable tank is the way to go.

For you folks that have the larger tanks, how does it work out? Do you connect one thing at a time or split the hose multiple times?

Rob

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Yeah, i agree carrying a large propane tank is a PITA, but for a longer trips, it would be easier then trying to lug around all of the wood!

A propane tank takes up MUCH less space then wood for 4-5 campfires! And its cleaner!

AND, it could be used for cooking and such.

Wood is expensive if you dont have a good source and most of it burns fast!

If the propane idea puts off enough heat, it might be "Ideal"