Data Service Plans.

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
I desperately need help:
  • Need mobile (cell) network service for my Laptop,
  • Need external antenna connectivity,
  • Will not sign contract; will not give SSN.
  • Desire month-to-month plan,
  • Happily will pay deposit,
  • Prefer PCMCIA to USB devices.
My only option that I know about is Qwest attached to my existing home/network service but they only will activate USB devices without external antenna connections.

Advice sought.
 

chrismc

Adventurer
I don't know if you'll have much luck with the "No Contract/No SSN" part of the equation, but I understand where you're coming from. Your best bet is probably to call up the guys at 3gstore.com and see what options they can work for you. They know their stuff inside and out, and are very helpful.

Best of luck!
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
How about:

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Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
That would come from you Dave.

As long as they have data service, I'm fine. I can run X with twm and a lean Korn shell with 4 mebibytes, that's all I need.

I don't know why these wireless providers seem to think I'm taking a line of credit with them for $30/mo and I should be smiling broadly to have my credit score lowered and to be locked in for 2 years so they can eat me for all the $ I barely have left at the end of the week. Can't believe they're not asking for a lien on my house; how kind and customer-benevolent they are.

Wish y'all'd baulk as much as I do.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
pskhaat said:
That would come from you Dave.

As long as they have data service, I'm fine. I can run X with twm and a lean Korn shell with 4 mebibytes, that's all I need.

I don't know why these wireless providers seem to think I'm taking a line of credit with them for $30/mo and I should be smiling broadly to have my credit score lowered and to be locked in for 2 years so they can eat me for all the $ I barely have left at the end of the week. Can't believe they're not asking for a lien on my house; how kind and customer-benevolent they are.

Wish y'all'd baulk as much as I do.
I hear you on putting up your SSN as collateral, but I'll bet plenty of people default and miss tons of monthly payments on everything.

BTW, those are real laptops put into Victorian cases. It's called Steampunk. I think the quill antenna is particularly clever and the trackball/Morse key is what sparked the memory. Apparently the old typewriter keys actually work on the laptop. Friggin' cool, but someone has far too much idle time IMO.

And yes, Scott, I baulk at the very thought. Thus the lack of said data, phone and etc. services... But then again I haven't figured it all out and I don't need to travel for my job, so the need isn't there.
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
How to build a Steampunk computer.
http://steampunkworkshop.com/
Ohh and a Steampunk artist that I find quite funny.
www.doctorsteel.com He's taking over the world.

As for the services. As with the Internet Cell phone coverage is not free...it has MAJOR overhead....MILLLLLLIIIOOOOONNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSS of dollars of overhead. Infact I have 120Million dollars worth of servers and crap in the Warehouse I work in right now to handle upgrades to provide better data services.


You don't have to sign a contract and you can refuses to give you SSN. The trick is you have to go to a "company owned store" or deal directly with the carrier on the phone.

Now let me point out the point of the contract and SSN.
The contract gets you discounts. 100 off the phone for a 2 year and a plan with more perks. When I was in sales no contract you lost the free mobile to mobile.


The SSN is protection to the company. You don't pay your bill they have recourse. You a habitual non bill payer they will be able to see that from the credit check and if you have payment issues then expect to pay a HEFTY deposit.

What you don't see is there are instances where you can incur charged above and beyond your plan. Like the little princess that mom was buying a phone for. Would not buy a text message plan and would not let me kill the feature all together becasue her little angle is a good kid and will not use the feature. So a month later the little angles mom is in my store in tears crying about the 4000+ text messages her little angle managed to pound off in 4 weeks at 10cents a message running her bill up to $1k. But I'm just a stupid sales person and my advice is worthless.

You can also get into instance where you roam and the roaming bill often takes 30 days to show up. If you read the fine print it clearly states No charge for roaming when "on their system". The carrier will get a bill for your roaming from the carrier you roamed on.

Now If you don't want a contract and you don't want to give your SSN expect to pay retail for the phone you buy and a $1000 deposit that you will get back often with interest after 1 year of clear payment history. That is going to be what you can expect from any of the major players.


Now a neat little trick that I believe still works. Unlimited data "on a phone" as in the phones built in browser" is a pretty reasonable $30 a month.


You start letting them know you plan to use it for a laptop thats when they will want to up the anty. What you need to do is pick a phone thats good at being used as a modem. Say nothing other then you want the unlimited data on the phone. Tell them nothing of your data intentions.
 
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Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
Grim Reaper said:
You don't have to sign a contract and you can refuses to give you SSN.

And I can not thus have service. I can't find a single carrier who does a month-to-month other than Qwest.

The trick is you have to go to a "company owned store" or deal directly with the carrier on the phone.

Any suggestions?

The contract gets you discounts. The SSN is protection to the company.

I don't care about discounts, quite frankly I have enough $ to pay outright. How does the SSN protect the company on an all-you-can eat month-to-month prepaid data plan?

You don't pay your bill they have recourse.

I don't pay, they don't play. Again, month-to-month, prepaid with deposit, what other recourse other than financial lock-in do they need?

Now If you don't want a contract and you don't want to give your SSN expect to pay retail for the phone you buy and a $1000 deposit that you will get back often with interest after 1 year of clear payment history. That is going to be what you can expect from any of the major players.

Nope. Not a single major player will play that game with me. Again, I want all-you-can-eat, roaming included plan which is ubiquitous. I could offer them a $1000/mo and they wouldn't take it without affecting my credit score.
 

Pskhaat

2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
bigreen505 said:
Scott, I think you can do a non-contract with Sprint.
They laughed me out the door in two retail stores as well as for multiple corporate calls. 1yr contract minimum (I already have a Sprint aircard sitting at home), credit check required and copies of government IDs on file. Yeah right.
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
The problem is more then likely you are dealing with Agents. Agents make their main revenue from the contract. It the biggest payout.

Have you tried calling the number on the carriers website?

If the first person you speak too can't help ask to talk to the supervisor. Superviosr is a hourly or sallery employee not a commision employee like the first line person you deal with will be.


I will say this...things may have changed since I got out of sales. The Homeland Security garbage may have changed if you can get a plan without the SSN. You can get pre paid but its at such a higher price that you would quickly eat the $1k deposit up and never be able to recover it.

Fact is if you pay the deposit and have no contract they have no right to do anything to your SSN. You are a month to month customer. You can cancel at any time. What would muddle up things is if you just didn't pay the bill. Then they would have to go though a long drawn out process to get your deposit back minus however many months you were behind.

Most carriers bill a month in advance. Your due date is usualy about 3-5 days into the month you are paying. So at the 60day point you are only about 20-30 days out.

When I was in sales and somebody didn't want a contract or to furnish SSN I just entered 000 00 0000 as the SSN. It immediately kicked back as $1k deposit. I have had people pay it. The bummer is no contact, no SSN meant no commission but as a company employee I was expected to do it. :(

Glad I am out of that end of the buisness.
 

Dave

Explorer
I'm surprised Verizon did not want to play ball on a month to month basis. I know their connection software (VZ Access Manager) has provisions for a pay as you go options. I know this because the first version we had did not allow you to change the software to a pre paid plan, so it would automatically open a browser to the VZ Access pay as you go page. The next version released had the option to switch between pre-paid and pay as you go, fixed our problem.
 

mountainpete

Spamicus Eliminatus
I know of know carriers in the USA that offers an unlimited prepaid data package for a data card. Sorry - really don't think one exists.

The only carrier in the USA (that I know of) that offers any unlimited PREPAID data option is AT&T.

It is a $20 per month bolt on feature to their Pay as You Go plan (which does not require a credit check). However, I have not recieved any confirmation that this will allow you to do a tethered data connection between your laptop and handset via either a cable or bluetooth.

In the end, this may be the route that will need to go. Find a handset that will allow prepaid unlimited tethered data and set it up. It unfortunately requires a second power source for the handset, but depending on the model and if it has a port it could hit your external antenna requirement (if by external you meant the ability to connect a high gain on the roof).

Pete
 

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