Favorite Hot weather desert gear ?

UK4X4

Expedition Leader
My companies moving me in less than 8 weeks from sunny CA
to either Muscat or Dubai in the middle east, so desert here I come...

What gear do you use, have used or would recomend for desert use / travel ?

I'll be there for 2-3 years and will probably build for an african trip...but first just the desert...

ie my new tent fly was going to be green...now I'm thinking of mylar silver
likewise for a sun awning, mine present dark green one won't reflect much heat.....

lightweight sand mats/ ladders..

Container wise I'm all done...16 gal main tank and two 20ltr cans for the water and 4 scepter gas tanks....

mmmm looks like I'l be needing some diesel seals....:D

nissan patrols TDI safaris look nice.....:D

any gear advise is good...excluding camel saddle recomendations:26_16_2:
 

overlander

Expedition Leader
Whatever it takes to keep these little bastards out of your sleeping bag and off your face at night. :yikes: They're all over Iraq, and I'll bet there down in Dubai too. And to think I'm gonna have to go through this again next year....

i541kzpssc
 

rusty_tlc

Explorer
I grew up camping, hiking and off roading in the So NV desert. here are a few things that may be useful.

A big straw hat. One with some open weave to it so air can flow. I go through one every summer here. Tie a bandanna around the sweat band to hold more moisture.

A cotton bucket hat or boonie hat, soaked down with a light breeze it will be your best friend. Works great when you are in and out of the rig a lot. the straw hat gets in the way doing that.

A half dozen bandannas, soak one and tie it around your neck. I go through a couple every summer.

Some good cold weather gear. Even close to the equator deserts get cold at night from time to time. It's not so much the actual temp that makes you cold as the differential between day and night. 60* feels bone chilling cold if you just spent all day at 130*.

I like long sleeve khaki shirts. They shade your arms and don't show dirt, you can open the front for a little air with out getting too burnt. You can roll them up in a pack for days at a time then hang them up and give them a spritz and they look good as new. The British army knew what they were doing.

If you can find a canvas desert water bag they are the ****z. My dad always had one tied to the grill of his car. We would take a roadside break and drink icy cold water from it. I've been searching for them for a couple of years with no success. I found the company that makes them but they have a ridiculous minimum buy requirement.

Boots don't last in the desert. The sand destroys the stitching, the dry kills the leather, rocks wear out the sole early. But everything in the desert sticks, stings or bites, so you need boots. I like a mid high boot top with a thick sole, like a climbing boot. Lots of guys swear by wool socks, I hate them. Wool always gives me blisters in the heat. I wear cotton and change them when the get to damp enough to start to cause hot spots.


Hope this helps.
Dan
 

mountainpete

Spamicus Eliminatus
Canadian boy here so I can't help with extended heat. But I will suggest something considering the amount of time you are planning to live there :peepwall:

Don't buy much before you go. Wear what the locals wear when they explore the desert - there is a reason they choose the garments they do and you'll look less like a tourist all the time.

Also, look around for local gear. I remember seeing pics of tents from Pakistan. Let's just say for desert use the can give Eezi-Awn a strong run for their money - but they only sell locally.

Just my 2 cents.

Pete
 

Momrocks

Adventurer
Don't buy much before you go. Wear what the locals wear when they explore the desert - there is a reason they choose the garments they do and you'll look less like a tourist all the time.

Good advice, but be careful which locals you emulate. In Morrocco the locals all wore dark wool blazers and wool pants. Not what I chose to wear.
 

SWDesertTaco

Adventurer
This started as quicky...then got long

Camel spiders are the big brothers of what we have here in the states called Wind Scorpions, amazing arachnids that cause serious damage to prey and each other when mating/fighting, scary but not dangerous.

Anyways...

Its the small things that keep you comfortable.

The advise about the head covering was key. They make decent panama jack type of hats now with a mesh crown and fabric tops and brims for cheap. A moist bandanna helps keep you sane, plus it's valuable for keeping your nose and mouth covered, temps in the 110's feel like you're breathing in a convection oven. Also the bandanna is great for repelling gnats and to keep the capillaries in your nose moist or else expect lots of bloody noses. The gnats will find your eyes, ears, nose, mouth. The more you have covered the better.

I carry tubes of carmex with me everywhere. In my pocket, in my backpack, in my first aid kit, in the console of my truck, with my toothbrush etc. etc. between the wind and the sun, chapped happens in minutes.

Sunglasses and goggles are key as well. No sunglasses, lots of strain on the eyes, you'll find your eyes get tired and as the day wears on your vision will change. The goggles for nasty sand storms you'll experience and sunglasses for everyday use, any polarized version is nice. Have a few pairs of cheapys around too..just in case.

For footwear... the deserts in the states are very hostile as far as stickers, fangs, and spines. Overseas not so many stickers or spines, but heavy on the fangs.
Leather will crack with age and dryness but if you treat it prior to use and keep retreating it, you'd be surprised how long it lasts (your feet will get HOT in leather and any kind of boot.) Lightweight or midweight hiking boots is the ticket, a combination of materials, like full grain leather, and cordura. Gortex is way overrated in the desert, and only causes your foot to sweat more, not really allowing the breathability that your feet need. (Good luck finding a boot NOT made with Gortex now adays though.)
You will sweat up to a pint in each boot in an average day (so I've been told)

Also, honest to God the most comfortable footwear for deserts I have found are Chaco sandals, flipflops are better. They allow sand to get out BUT will dry your feet out (Tigerbalm or Udderbalm works for this).
You'll be told to always wear closed toes shoes though...sand fleas, scorpions, and a few viper species are pretty common over there.

Loose fitting clothes are also the way to go. Light colors and natural (except cotton) or synthetic materials. Loose fitting allows 'insulation' layer to be created between your skin and fabric and then the harsh heat. Plus, if there is any kind of tightness it will cause your body to get fatigued sooner. Mammut makes these awesome pants called the Champ pants that are about the toughest pair of pants available. I've seen them used in a huge variance of conditions and climates and perform so well. Also check out a company called Ibex (Ibexwear.com). They produce fine quality wool (I know it doesn't make sense but this stuff rocks) that is completely functional in a board meeting or the field excursion.

When it gets to 120 F out, your water will be warmer than bathwater and you won't want to drink it. Hydration is crucial.

My personal opinion...you can wear ANY hat, long sleeved shirt, pants, and tennis shoes ANY day in the desert and be fine but if you don't drink enough water...you're toast. If temps are over 100 degrees F and you're in it, you'll want at least 3-5 gallons PER PERSON PER DAY...no joke.

A mylar covered tent might be fine(prob. an overkill though); you won't be in it during the day and at night you want as much air or breeze moving over you. Sleeping in an insect proofed tent(all mesh) is more important than anything else..in my humble opinion (google sand fleas)

Truth be told; you'll almost always stand out as a foreigner no matter what you wear or do. You might even live in a company town or community; so I wouldn't worry about that. But a lot of what the locals have developed for surviving the desert doesnt always make sense but after ten thousand years...it just might work.

I think that is way to much typing for now. Hope my twelve cents comes in handy.

-C
 
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UK4X4

Expedition Leader
OK

floppy hat.......check
bandana's.......check
carmex ..........check
camel spiders...check

gringo......no help there, but I'm used to being odd.....

In most areas a friendly attitude and some street awareness is all you need.

I spent 1/2 and hour tonight showing my wife her new wardrobe............

kaftans....and burqa's.......he he he:sunflower

What no new cool gear to buy ?

......I'm astounded....wheres the diamond encusted sand mats, and home made pull pals..??????:victory:
 
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Martyn

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
rusty_tlc said:
If you can find a canvas desert water bag they are the ****z. My dad always had one tied to the grill of his car. We would take a roadside break and drink icy cold water from it. I've been searching for them for a couple of years with no success. I found the company that makes them but they have a ridiculous minimum buy requirement.

Boots don't last in the desert. The sand destroys the stitching, the dry kills the leather, rocks wear out the sole early. But everything in the desert sticks, stings or bites, so you need boots. I like a mid high boot top with a thick sole, like a climbing boot. Lots of guys swear by wool socks, I hate them. Wool always gives me blisters in the heat. I wear cotton and change them when the get to damp enough to start to cause hot spots.

Hope this helps.
Dan

We used to travel with Bota bags hanging off the side view mirrors. Nice cool drinks on a hot day http://www.survivalequipment.net/botabags.html

For boots try Namibian made Swakopmund, Kudu hide, veltschoen
 

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