is THIS a good place for recovery attachment? REAR of F350 SuperDuty

[LosAngeles]

is THIS a good place for recovery attachment? REAR of F350 SuperDuty

Hi all

Is this place (see photos) a good place for a recovery attachment? on the REAR a current F350 SuperDuty (with a Kinetic recovery rope)

oh and I would much rather NOT buy any accessory loop that goes into the hitch, as i'll always have something else IN the hitch, with a lock on it... so I'd rather just attach my shackle to a safe place.

It looks to all be welded to the frame, but wanted to make sure this was good.

and yes, that is a Van Beest green pin shackle. Super strong.

Thanks

 

[Buliwyf]

Nope.

I ripped a tree out of the earth there, and that loop got bent up on my previous truck. That's just for trailer chains.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Just my $0.02 but the hitch tabs for trailer chains would probably bend in a recovery. Whether it's safe I dunno, it's not as ideal as using a receiver adapter in the hitch.

What I think is the main problem is getting the shackle safely loaded. They can't tolerate being in just any random orientation.



I carry a stack of washers to use as packing when I have to attach shackles to keep the load centered and the shackle from rotating. This is a recovery point that I used to have on the front of my truck, which was 1/2" thick and so the shackle would slide side-to-side.

 

[phsycle]

How are you going to recover or get recovered with a trailer on?

Just get a hitch shackle

 

[DaveInDenver]

How are you going to recover or get recovered with a trailer on?

Just get a hitch shackle

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Not sure about trailers but before I had a rear bumper with recovery clevis on it I relied on a hitch adapter. I had to remove a hitch-mounted bike rack a handful times over the years when helping someone.

 

[Rippin'AV]

I guess there is always this alternative https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Adap...7yNomos_mn7ORkn6Kg8w3At2I9yKt7MhoCsgcQAvD_BwE

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

I carry a stack of washers to use as packing when I have to attach shackles to keep the load centered and the shackle from rotating. This is a recovery point that I used to have on the front of my truck, which was 1/2" thick and so the shackle would slide side-to-side.

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Thats a simple and genius idea sir!!

 

[Todd780]

How are you going to recover or get recovered with a trailer on?

Just get a hitch shackle

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I 2nd this. This is what I use. Just used it a few weeks ago and worked great.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Thats a simple and genius idea sir!!

It's a trick that's come in handy often to make a rigging a little less sketchy.

But I can't claim to have thought of it independently, it's common knowledge in rigging manuals.

 

[LosAngeles]

Hi all... Thanks all for the good thoughts. I sort of had my doubts.... so i am glad I asked.

so this hitch loop (link below) is rated for 10,000 lbs and my big hard shackle *will* fit thru it - how would this be?

I like the idea of a solid forged loop, as it is likely less likely to fail.... as opposed to the kind with the "shackle" and pin ..... fewer moving parts, fewer possible points of failure.

thoughts? Thanks.

https://www.grainger.com/product/REESE-Tow-Eye-2ZPV7
https://www.grainger.com/product/REESE-Tow-Eye-2ZPV7

 

[DaveInDenver]

There's nothing inherently better about this:



Than this:



They're both just forged, cast or machined hunks of steel or aluminum.

The weak point is going to the be hitch pin, hitch itself, the connection to the strap. How do you intend to make the connection to the cast loop like the top one? It's going to require a shackle or hook.

The advantage to the shackle style is the shackle is located in its correct orientation and can't rotate. It'll carry its full rating in that case. You have to derate a shackle if the load is not inline.

 

[LosAngeles]

Hi Dave

Well I see your point....

However the forged one piece loop you posted a photo of has a weight limit of 10,000 lbs, according to the manufacturer

And can be had for $27.

The “shackle” type I have seen have a weight limit stated as 8,000 lbs. I bet there are similar with a higher published weight limit, but I have not seen them yet.

But if they exist they may well cost more than $27 and unless I am missing something they don’t offer any advantages to me.... ?

I already own top quality shackles.

Thanks for any info. I am here to learn.

There's nothing inherently better about this:

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Than this:
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They're both just forged, cast or machined hunks of steel or aluminum.

The weak point is going to the be hitch pin, hitch itself, the connection to the strap. How do you intend to make the connection to the cast loop like the top one? It's going to require a shackle or hook.

The advantage to the shackle style is the shackle is located in its correct orientation and can't rotate. It'll carry its full rating in that case. You have to derate a shackle if the load is not inline.

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[rayra]

seconding the hitch shackle mount. That flange on that Class 4(?) hitch will bend / tear.

smittybilt's insert says it's good to 9,500#. Although the amazon text is seemingly blathering about the rating of the shackle itself

Amazon.com: Smittybilt 29312B Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4-Inch Shackle for 2-Inch Receivers: Automotive

Buy Smittybilt 29312B Receiver Hitch D-Ring with 3/4-Inch Shackle for 2-Inch Receivers: Hitch Clips & Pins - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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This one claims a break strength of over 40,000#, and that's with two crossed holes thru it.

Amazon.com: LIBERRWAY Shackle Hitch Receiver 2 inch 41918 Lbs Break Strength Never Rust Receiver Shackle Bracket Heavy Duty and Solid with 3/4'' D Ring Shackle, Towing Accessories for Trucks Jeeps (Black): Automotive

Buy LIBERRWAY Shackle Hitch Receiver 2 inch 41918 Lbs Break Strength Never Rust Receiver Shackle Bracket Heavy Duty and Solid with 3/4'' D Ring Shackle, Towing Accessories for Trucks Jeeps (Black): Automotive - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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[DaveInDenver]

A 3/4" screw pin shackle is rated 4.75 tons (9,500 lbs). But this is the working load limit. Certified shackles (like for overhead) are proof tested to 2x (19,000 lbs) that and will have a design margin of 5x (47,500 lbs). So the real world limit is likely the 5/8" hitch pin and that's in double shear. I'd worry more about how well the hitch or recovery point is connected to the truck and the quality of the strap.

 

[nitro_rat]

The eye of a 4" nylon web sling fits right in a 2" receiver, just stick a pin in it. Pin the other end to another truck and done. Yes you may bend the pin but I've never bent one bad enough that I couldn't remove it by hand. And this is making "snatch" type pulls that would mangle a bumper mounted hitch. Only use the snatch technique when you have a strong attachment point like a frame hitch, never looped over a ball on a bumper, you will definitely pretzel a bumper!!!