Lightroom 3 Beta

Lost Canadian

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Ran my first shots through lightroom 3, just a moment ago. It's quite interesting. First thing I did was I opened and exported the same raw file in lightroom 2.5 and then lightroom 3. I made no adjustments other than I applied the same custom colour profile to both images. No sharpening, no nothing. Side by side there is very little noticable differences. I thought I detectected slightly smoother transitions in the shadows with Lightroom 3 but can't be sure it's not just my eyes playing tricks.

Left lightroom 2.5, right lightroom 3.

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Next I ran the auto adjust, just to see if there were any changes there. Doesn't appear to be much, slight differences but hardly noticable. Same thing here, lightroom 2.5 on the left lightroom 3 on the right.

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Adobe claims this is a whole new engine, but on the surface with basic adjustments there appears to be very little change with the way it handles slight adjustments. It's only when I started to push the image around more aggressively that I noticed a difference. When pushed, the transitions appear smoother in lightroom 3, and the notorious white band that sometimes appeared around the edges of images that were pushed really hard from a lot of fill light coupled with heavy highlight recovery, is gone,...or so it appears. Sharpening is noticeably improved and this was one area that I thought Lightroom 2.5 already did well. There are a few develop features that are not enabled yet, like the full noise reduction palette, so only time will tell if there is much of an improvement there.

I'm also looking forward to trying out a few of the new features in the display/web/export areas. Creating slideshows with music looks kinda cool, but I haven't had enough time with these new features to form an opinion. You can create a custom watermark now though,..if that is your thing. Personally I don't like them but this new feature does work for those who do.
Here is a look at an image that I purposefully processed somewhat aggressively in Lightroom 3 next to the untouched image.
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I'm going to test out the new black and white conversion, I'm a little currious as to why Adobe changed the name from grayscale. I'll get back to this thread if I notice any changes. Oh and if you're looking to process some of those G11 RAW files Mr. Slade posted, you can do so with LR3.;)
 

Michael Slade

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I DL'ed LR3 last night. I got home at 10 and have been in Parent/Teacher Conferences all morning, so I'm actually kind of jealous that you've had time to play around with it a bit.

I'm going to e-mail Julianne (she's the last credit on the splash start-up screen), and ask her how the develop engine is different. I always get fun little tid-bits from her that don't normally get talked about.

Those images look nice. But, you had a nice image to start with. It'll be interesting to see how the old stacks up with the new. I did notice quite a big jump from LR1 to LR2. I am surprised that you didn't see a big jump from 2.5 to 3.
 

Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
I DL'ed LR3 last night. I got home at 10 and have been in Parent/Teacher Conferences all morning, so I'm actually kind of jealous that you've had time to play around with it a bit.

I'm going to e-mail Julianne (she's the last credit on the splash start-up screen), and ask her how the develop engine is different. I always get fun little tid-bits from her that don't normally get talked about.

Those images look nice. But, you had a nice image to start with. It'll be interesting to see how the old stacks up with the new. I did notice quite a big jump from LR1 to LR2. I am surprised that you didn't see a big jump from 2.5 to 3.

That'd be awesome. I'd love to see where/what the differences are. Perhaps I'm not looking, or pushing the right sliders to see all the subtle changes. Let me be clear though, I haven't spent a ton of time using LR3, so these are just my initial impressions. More time is certainly needed to form any sort of final opinion. Time for more experimenting...
 

Chris

Adventurer
Trevor, First off let me point out I am not a photographer however I really appreciate your photography very much. I'm not sure exactly what or why but your photos grab my eye. I have taken enough photo classes mostly B&W to be dangerous. Unfortunately I know nothing about fixing with software, other than Auto fix with PS elements premium. Don’t laugh!

The comparisons you posted do look a bit though slight different. They appear to me to be a little richer, deeper with the new version. Probably what you already said about the shadows.

Some day! I will learn the digital world of photog. I'm an old hand processor dogging and burning by hand.

Want to teach me a thing or two?..............I am looking to buy a new camera what would you recommend.
 

Michael Slade

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Problem #1 has surfaced:

LR3 Beta crashed when importing my library. LR2 Beta also crashed when I initially tried to import that large library too.

Hmmmm....
 

Michael Slade

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Another glitch:

I've switched back to LR2 to work on this large slideshow and now my rated images don't show up. I wouldn't have thought LR3 would have affected LR2, but I can't figure this out.

I don't have proof that they are affecting each other, but this is really weird timing for something I've never experienced before.

EDIT:

I restarted the computer and now my rated images come up as normal in LR2. Very interesting...
 
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Lost Canadian

Expedition Leader
Any thoughts yet Michael? I had it crash on me a couple of times, and it's slower then LR2, but for a beta release, I like it. I notice almost zero difference in IQ when used on shots taken with low ISO's but the new noise reduction does do a much better job with cleaning up noise on higher ISO shots. I ran a few ISO 800 shots from my G9 through the noise reduction filter and they were noticeably cleaner then LR2's best attempts. The final version should be good.
 
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Michael Slade

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You know it's kind of funny...I have been teaching LR2.5 all day and haven't even had a chance much to play with LR3 since my slideshow crashed. I made the slideshow with LR2 HERE, and haven't had a chance to play with LR3 today much.

I did like the sharpening in LR3 a lot more than 2, but then 3 crashed and I was back to 2. I guess since I'm kind of in 'production' mode right now I can't easily slip into 'play and experiment' mode yet. I didn't notice a difference in speed that I can say, but if it's faster I'm all for it.

My students were excited about LR3 coming out, and I have another convert from my group that never learned it and were sold on Photoshop.

If anyone hasn't tried it yet, you all should at least DL the 30-day trial and play with it for a while. It had no problems with my G11's CR2 files like you mentioned.
 

DiploStrat

Expedition Leader
Insert Phanboi Message Here

I should post something like, "Well, Adobe had to do something to catch up to Aperture 3." but the real message is that we photographers are getting some really nice tools that, in contrast with Photoshop, are laid out the way most photographers, as opposed to graphics types, work.

I love slick software it makes it so much easier to display my lack of photographic talent! :wings:
 

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