My new (to me) 4x4 7.3 Powerstroke Van and Introduction from a long time lurker

DanTheVanMan

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Part 1

Hi guys! I've been a lurker for a while drooling over 4x4 vans. My wife and I travel a lot. Her job requires a lot of travel -- sometimes for months at a time and I can work remotely from wherever there is an internet connection. Up until 2 years ago we mostly just flew or drove our Jeep to wherver we needed to go - then we had a son. That made flying with lots baby stuff / strollers, car seats etc a nightmare. We've rented minivans and though we liked the stow and go seats and space we really couldn't bring ourselves to buy one, plus we have to travel in all different types of weather and coming from a Jeep background and being outdoosy types we really prefer 4 wheel drive for any kind of travel. One trip early on in our sons life we rented a minivan for a 10 hour drive only to find when we got to the rental company it wasn't available. So we opted for a extended Ford Econoline V10 they had availble. Since this was a 3 month rotation we had lots of baby stuff with us to take to the hotel so a normal SUV wasn't going to cut it. Even being an extended van we almost filled up the rear few rows no problem but still had plently of space for our son to play on the floor when we stopped to take breaks. This got the wheels turning in my head and I started looking for 4 wheel drive vans that weren't your normal soccer mom mini-van.

This thread is useless without pics so enter the eye candy.
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After researching a bit I found Ujoint Offroad's website. Just so happens we currently live in Eastern, North Carolina. Our upcoming trip was a long drive to Tennesee. As you all know Ujoint is located in North Carolina. So I convinced my wife to split the drive in half since our son wasn't good at long road trips and stay overnight near Asheville. I needed to get her on board with one of these vans or suffer being stuck in mini-van hell. I arranged for us to conveiniently drop by Ujoint on the way to see if I could spot one of these monster vans in person. We dropped by Ujoint on a Sunday -- so I didn't get to meet Chris this time but I did get to introduce my wife to the idea of a full sized 4x4 van. Her first sight of one of these vans was Ujoint V5.

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She loved it. We spent the next year looking for a van to either convert or buy that was already converted. We searched Craigslist all over the country and came close a couple of times, finding a few Quigleys and other conversions only to have them priced out of our range or get snapped up almost immediately. We even toyed with the idea of a Chevy Express AWD but I really preferred the look of the Fords and wanted to get exactly what it was that we wanted and preferably diesel. Time passed, the search became frustrating. We stumbled upon a good deal on a nice black 4x4 Chevy Suburban in really good condition and ended up buying it because we needed the space and couldn't wait anymore. We got a long fine with the Suburban. It was a decent ride and pretty spacious. But deep down it wasn't exactly what we wanted for our long road trips - and I found myself looking longingly at 4x4 van pics still late at night.

Months pass and my wife has moved on and is relatively happy with the Suburban despite little glitches with it and the fact that we run out of space everytime we travel with all our luggage and kid gear. My son likes the mountains so we decide to take another weekend trip to Asheville, NC area for his birthday. We drop by Ujoint again and this time I get to meet and chat with Chris and tell him how these are my dream vehicles. For anybody who hasn't met Chris he is a super nice guy and very willing to help anybody with a passion for these vans like he has. My wife needed a little more convincing at this point so Chris lets me show her the interior of one of the vans with the reclining Sienna seats. She likes those a lot and still likes the space the vans have and since she was a little annoyed at a nagging electrical problem with the Suburban this was a good way to get her opened back up to the idea of getting a van. She states "we don't want a van like this - we NEED a van like this". Score!

We leave Asheville and are well into our 7+ hour ride home. She had the Ujoint vans fresh in her mind when she spots this little ad on Craigslist on her phone during the drive back. Of course it figures that Hendorsonville was right near where we just were but we're not about to turn around and drive back 5 hours into our drive home with a two year old getting impatient in the back seat.

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DanTheVanMan

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... continued from last post


The van was exactly what I was looking for. A 97 leaf sprung extended e350 4x4 with a 7.3 Powerstroke diesel. Not wanting to let this one slip away I call the seller immediatley when I get home and tell him I'll take it. I arrange to get a deposit to him and then pick the van up in a few weeks when we both had time to meet. I'm stoked. Looks like I'm finally getting the van I wanted. My wife was the one who found it so she is also very excited. Two weeks later I rent a car one way and drive up to Hendorsonville NC to get it. I check it out in person. It looks good, exactly what I was expecting to see. I drive it and test the 4 wheel drive. Everything seems ok. Its got a bench that folds into a bed. 4 captains chairs with swivel bases in the second row. A spare set of wheels and tires, two more spare captains chairs with swivels and another spare bench loaded into it. Jackpot! Lots of options to work with. We exchange money / keys and after a quick trip to the DMV I'm on my way home.

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I take it through the mountains and on the highway. It runs good. It has a little body roll and it took a few minutes getting used to the handling of it but I like it. I feel bad @ss in this thing. It's huge! I get it home no problems 7+ hours drivingi it. We have an upcoming trip for 3 months away from home to various locations in NE US from late October to January. I figure it made it home no problem. I'll do a quick once over on things and then use this upcoming trip for a shakedown and to find any problems with it. One problem I notice right away is the drivers seat feels really wobbly. I take a look and it has a base thats an air ride seat.

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Upon further inspection I notice the seat doesn't seem to work and there is two cracks in the what looks to be a fabricated seat bracket to make the seat base fit the seat.

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This explains the rolling shaky feeling when driving a bit. It's unsafe to continue driving with a cracked seat bracket so I make a quick stop at a pick and pull and grab a regular seat base from an Econoline van of the same year. I swap it out and it feels much more solid now. Now for our shakedown trip to the northeast.

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DanTheVanMan

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...just some more pics from the day at Ujoint that my wife was convinced we needed one of these vans.

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More to come soon.

PS> Anybody know how to rotate these images correctly. They're oriented fine my computer but turn out sideways on the website.
 

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libarata

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You can upload the pictures to photobucket, and rotate them there. That seems to do the trick.

Great looking van! I have a softspot for them as well, keep the story coming!
 

DanTheVanMan

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So a week later now we're driving at night headed north to DC and the weather is getting colder. The next issue I run into is that no matter what setting I set the front heat to my feet are freezing. Meanwhile in the back my wife and son are cooking because I have the heat turned up. That's fine I think, probably something simple. I'll look it up when we get to the corporate housing where we're staying when I get to DC. We arrive at 2am and we hit our next problem. The van is 8ft tall almost and they have a parking deck with low ceilings. So I have to arrange to park in one of the valet spots for the next 3 months because my van doesn't fit the parking deck spot we're paying for. :) Good times. I start to realize with all the smart cars and Priuses driving around DC that we're a little out of place. Oh well.

Anyway after a little research it turns out the freezing feet problem is a known problem with the blend door in the passenger side foot well. I've already annoyed the valets where we are by taking up one of their spots for the next 3 months, the last thing I want to do is tear into the van in their swanky parking lot in front of everybody. We're headed up to PA the following weekend to visit my Mom so I'll take a look at it there. We get to my Mom's house have a good visit with family and friends and it's wicked cold out. I don't have a lot of time so I implement one of my more hi tech temporary fixes. Enter the coat hanger.

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I tear apart part of the dash and affix a coat hanger with some duct tape to the blend door so I can manually adjust the mix by pushing forward to cool off some and pulling back to heat things up -- as denoted by the fancy color coded electrical tape handle. I'll fix it the right way when we get back home. It works rather well. (I still haven't fixed it correctly yet).
 

DanTheVanMan

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So the next problem I run into on my 3 month shakedown and stay in the Northeast is hard starting without the block heater plugged in when the weather gets around 35 degrees or colder. I wasn't expecting that. Some more googling leads me to find this is a common problem with these diesels. I just swapped the oil this weekend to T6 Rotella full synthetic 5-W40 oil. It starts a little easier now but I still have the let the glow plugs cycle a little longer to get it started. I suspect it's the glow plug relay. I've ordered a new White Rogers upgraded relay and plan on replacing it next weekend. Anybody done this mod? If so how do you like it?

http://www.guzzle7pt3.com/s_gpr.php

Also during one of my weekend trips from DC to PA we got some slushy snow. Perfect time to check out the 4wd. I lock the front hubs and put it into 4wd high and notice the shifter is a little loose. I don't think too much about it and continue on my way to PA. The 4wd performance seemed a little off to me in the slush, maybe its the heavier weight of the van? I used to driving a Jeep XJ in the snow so maybe it's the weight difference that makes it slide around a bit more? When changing the oil this weekend I notice while I'm under there that there is a long rod coming from the transfer case to where the shifter is located. It has a square flat end with a hole in it and it looks like it should be connected to the shifter to me based on it's length and location. So now I'm wondering if this is why the ride felt off in 4wd. Locked front hubs and a limited slip differential in the rear (I think -- axle code is C9 on the door sticker). It feels like it's in 4wd when I shift it but now I'm not sure it was. I couldn't get a good picture from underneath (outlined in red below), but would there be any reason that long rod from the transfer case would be just hanging there not connected to anything? I'm thinking it's the reason the 4wd shifter was loose and sloppy in 4 HI.

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DanTheVanMan

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That's what I assumed. Should just be a matter of reattaching I guess? Possibly to the springy looking thing sticking out there? I've worked on cars for years but no experience with transfer cases and shift linkages yet. Has anybody had this happen to them? Is it common?
 

CrabbyMcNab

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Congrats on the van. I need to make the trip to Chris to convince the wife of converting our van. I'm 20 minutes outside DC in MD if you want ideas of things to do or need a driveway to look things over.
 

ujoint

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The rubber is still attached to the pivot on the transmission, thats what popped out of the linkage. You may be able to put it back together, had to tell from the pic. Also looks like they made some sort of adjustable linkage.
 

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