Hi all, I'm new to the 4x4 van game but I do currently drive a beat up 96 astro awd. I'm looking to go fullsize for both work (finish carpenter) and family (another baby on the way) reasons. I have found a 2002 e350 within 100 miles of me and wanted to know what you guys thought. Also if this is reasonable (which it seems based on everything I've looked at) what are some potential problem areas I should look for before purchasing? Thanks so much for your help and I look forward to joining the 4x4 family soon!
Newbie needing advice on purchase.
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Bikersmurf
Expedition Leader
1) why do you want a 4wd van? How do you plan on using it? Is Quigley enough or should you go UJOR?
2) It's 17.4k for a 13 yr old van... How long do you plan to keep it?
2) It's 17.4k for a 13 yr old van... How long do you plan to keep it?
I have always owned 4wd vehicles, for work especially in the winter it makes life easier and safer. I've gone through trucks SUVs and have ended up with the astro. I love the aspect of a van because it keeps tools and materials temp controlled and dry and is easier to maneuver inside of. It will be used for work and hauling the kiddos around. Quigly would be ok but may like to upgrade in the future. I would ideally like to play closer to 15 for this unit. Timeline...I would plan on keeping 5+ years.
Bikersmurf
Expedition Leader
For work you may want a raised top... And if you're thinking more than a Quigley, I'd recommend buying a 2WD van and using a UJOR kit to convert to 4WD. Quigley is likely sufficient unless you're wheeling a lot.
I've chosen to stick with a 2WD van and keep the Fj40 for wheeling. 4WDs need more maintenance and burn more fuel... Winter is only a few days a year here though.
I've chosen to stick with a 2WD van and keep the Fj40 for wheeling. 4WDs need more maintenance and burn more fuel... Winter is only a few days a year here though.
Bikersmurf
Expedition Leader
For price comparison, read through the found vans thread.
350outrage
Adventurer
I know the price seems a little steep, but don't underestimate the value of that 4wd conversion. I'd take the bluebook of the van and add at least $7-8 K for depreciated value of the conversion. You prob still wont find anything better in this price range if you want all the advantages of a full size 4wd van . Cheapest new turnkey out the door 4wd conversion I'm aware of is around $10K, and that's from an outfit I chose NOT to go with. The V-10 should be problem free for many more miles if scheduled svc done on time. at 120k, I'd be sure the plugs and serpentine belt have been replaced. Replacing plugs on these can be a problem, which should be tackled Only by dealer or other experienced professional. You will have to feed that beast though. I'm getting 11-12 mpg. I think your desired price of 15 or so would be pretty realistic. Good luck with it!
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At this point I'm also factoring in location, yes I may be able to find a little better deal somewhere, but delivery or driving/flying somewhere for a pickup is going to end up costing me the added savings. I think I'll contact dealer this week and see if I can soften price. I'm only getting probably 15 mpg in my astro right now but I'm more than willing to take that hit on mpg to double my interior space 
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86scotty
Cynic
That's a pretty van. I would try for 15k tops though. Closer to 20 I would be looking for a built out interior (SMB or the like). Quigleys are fine. Mine goes places I can't believe it will go. You just need to throw some Fox shocks under it and improve the front springs. Talk to BajaSportsmobile. Ujoint is awesome of course but I would leave a converted 4wd van alone if in good shape. If I was converting a 2WD I would definitely call Chris at Ujoint.
350outrage
Adventurer
yeah, I probably agree with Scotty on pricing. But like you say, a few $ here or there disappears if you have to go far to get it.