No hope for Mistubishi to bring back Montero

PirateMcGee

Expedition Leader
This is why I am slowly going to begin acquiring a the little parts that are still available new from Mitsu, all the little tiny rubber pieces, trim, seals etc. Stuff that becomes an issue later on and isn't easily remedied in the aftermarket. New 4wds simply haven't improved rapidly enough in the last decade to justify the exorbitant cost (new and used). So the MS has been relegated to fun/adventure only trips and is going to be slowly rebuilt while factory parts exist.....by the time it wears out hopefully a new L200 will be out or I can afford a used 4runner.
 

Eric M

Adventurer
look at in the chart ( Coming from Mitsubishi) Full size Montero SUV ( NO)

I looked at it and tried to view their source for it, but couldn't because it is behind a paywall. Nothing they quote the CEO as saying specifically mentions the Pajero and the Montero Sport which actually exists isn't mentioned at all. The only thing that has been said is there won't be a new Pajero for at least a couple more years, so it makes sense that we aren't seeing anything about it coming to the US. Not saying it ever will, I doubt it, but nothing in these articles so far confirms much other than Mitsubishi's intent to focus on 4WD vehicles and SUVs.
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
They have been putting a ton of effort into the L200 and Challenger platform lately, i'd like to see that come.
 

Sabre

Overlanding Nurse
Ridiculous, more crap that wont sell. Who the F wants these crappy electric cars???
Well, the entire developed world, for one. Of course, it's mostly urban & suburban areas now due to range limitations. You may not care for it, but it's the future. The technology is leaping ahead at quite a pace.
 

PA_JERO

Adventurer
Live in the now guys. Live with the bishi you have now and stop hoping for what is a lost cause. If you want a new 4x4, I'm sure there is a Toyota dealer or Chrysler/Jeep dealer near you. Nothing is coming to the US from mitsu, at least not anytime soon.

....Or you could move to another country. Still have options.
 

Gruni14

Observer
The unforseen (around when they made that decision) drop in oil prices and gasoline will probably lead them to revisit their decision. Cheap gas is predicted to be around for a few years, at least until the next major Middle-East crisis. The demand for hybrids and electrics will diminish (for the nearterm) and mfgrs who are well-positioned will profit well selling pick-up trucks and SUV's. At least until the next major mid-east crisis -- at which time we will all runn around like chickens with their heads cut off screaming how we didn't see it coming!

It might be that they need to make significant modifications to make their cars meet more strict US guidelines, or maybe they need to re-program out the special code that was used for skirting US emissions testing :)
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
or maybe they need to re-program out the special code that was used for skirting US emissions testing :)

That whole thing is funny as hell, especially the deal with VW getting snagged for it. In reality the government and their subsidized CNG operations are forcing CNG vehicles onto the public sectors for "green reasons" and "cost effectiveness" like they did once before and failed. This time they are making stricter emission standards on gas and diesel while skirting their own rules on CNG emissions. It's almost criminal or would be if it weren't mandated by the guys who write the rules.
 

Gruni14

Observer
Yeah, that's really an amazing story (VW). Anyone who's worked for a large international fortune 100 company can attest to the pressure to hit certain benchmark numbers. That's the environment of large organizations: Reporting and hitting targets. Been there for years. I can see how this thing with VW probably got rolling, what's astonishing is that someone at the top levels didn't hit the 'stop' button (like would usually happen at most organizations), and, in fact, gave the go-ahead or covertly supported it at least. If they would have stopped it after 2 years until they got their technology up to speed ...and did the right thing, people wouldn't be very affected. As it is, it'll cost them way more than whatever savings they realized by NOT properly fitting their vehicles with the technology. It's one of those things that, as a company, they will probably never escape the black mark on their reputation. Just like GM will probably never escape from their diesel fiasco of the 80's, which is usually noted as the reason most American's won't buy a diesel car, or at least in the 90's till today. You mention diesel cars and most people old enough think of GM B-body diesels and shake their heads. Have rented some very good GM and Ford diesel cars in Europe ...gm doesn't suffer from that reputation there. VW was changing the diesel stigma and they make outstanding diesels. Course, I own a VW diesel and can tell you from personal experience, there are as many negatives as positives to owning a diesel car. But they do get great fuel economy. But now with the need for diesel fluids and converter replacement, a lot of die-hard VW diesel guys on the TDI forums even acknowledge that Hybrids are cheaper to own and maintain, and probably make more sense.

I hate to say it, but if you look at electrics, and the cost of ownership economics ...really look at it, not just the nay-sayer hyperbole, they truely make tremendous sense for a lot of people. Not everyone mind you. I have a couple guys I know, who were the LAST people in the world you would think would buy an electric car (like a Leaf) ....these are 4x4 truck owners, and they surprised me, but they love them for commuting. Cost almost nothing to own. There isn't a whole lot to fail. The battery replacement costs seem to be overblown. Nissan was smart and has a free towing arrangement if you run out of juice, but the guys I referred to, it hasn't been a problem and they commute about 40 minutes each way and make some side trips (this is in the frozen upper mid-west too!). One buddy is on his second Prius. Being in a Prius is like stepping 20 years into the future. First time he gave me a ride, I'm thinking: "Now why couldn't GM build a car like this?". There's no doub't that's where the technology is headed. A good number of work vans our company buys are hybirds. I know a guy who has a Tesla and it's a pretty sweet ride from my observations ..although in all honestly I haven't ridden in it yet. I still like gas, v8 power. I'm a hold-out, most of my vehicles are v8's I guess, but electric technology is coming. Seeing these guys' experiences makes a guy start thinking... Ok, I don't want to get too off-topic now..

Back to Monteros...
 
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PirateMcGee

Expedition Leader
Electric cars are awesome. As a commuter they make a ton of sense....even with gas prices being low they're still cheaper to operate and the simplicity is fantastic. My commute is slightly too long for a imiev but after driving one I would definitely buy a used one for the extremely low prices they're running. Not having to stop and plugging in at home = fantastic.
 

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