Nokian Rotiva AT
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I had these on my f150 and I wouldn't recommend them for ice/slush.
The snow rating on any AT tire needs to be taken with a very large grain of salt (pun intended).
I found the wet snow and slush ability to be less than the BFG AT and the grip in -15c and colder wasn't as good
either. I run dedicated winter tires and find them the best solution in the typical Alberta winter.
The snow rating on any AT tire needs to be taken with a very large grain of salt (pun intended).
I found the wet snow and slush ability to be less than the BFG AT and the grip in -15c and colder wasn't as good
either. I run dedicated winter tires and find them the best solution in the typical Alberta winter.
BigSwede
The Credible Hulk
I had these on my FJ for a while, they did great. They aren't as good as a dedicated snow tire but no AT is (get the Nokian Hakkapeliitta for that). For an AT they were good for me in Minnesota. They have a fair amount of siping compared to some ATs and most MTs which helps in the snow.
aknightinak
Active member
I had pretty much the same experience as lbarcher running them on a Rav4, better than an MT but not by much. About all they were good for was deep snow. Anything packed or icy and bets were off. Also, myself and my buddy that runs the Nokian AT on his F250 (also swaps for winter tires) both had them puncture pretty easily within their first few thousand miles on gravel/shale roads where we'd never had flats before (like in 25 years of running the same routes).
I then had Nitto ExoGrapplers on my Tundra---their 3-peak snowflake AT answer. These are probably the worst winter tires I ever used, maybe the worst tires period. These things break loose on everything, even dry pavement. That said, given the budget, I have to give them another summer.
I've had only two sets of snow tires that weren't Nokian Nordmans or Hakka LTs and won't bother trying anything else again for a winter tire unless I have to.
I then had Nitto ExoGrapplers on my Tundra---their 3-peak snowflake AT answer. These are probably the worst winter tires I ever used, maybe the worst tires period. These things break loose on everything, even dry pavement. That said, given the budget, I have to give them another summer.
I've had only two sets of snow tires that weren't Nokian Nordmans or Hakka LTs and won't bother trying anything else again for a winter tire unless I have to.
Grassland
Well-known member
What I'm finding my issue is going to be outside the cost is to find a fairly narrow 33-34" winter tire that's a pure winter.
Might have to stick with 285/70R17.
Thanks for the feedback. I was hoping Nokian rubber compound and some more Sipes would increase winter performance but it sounds like the compromise of an AT tire makes them the same as every other 3 peak Mountain Snowflake AT.
Are the dedicated winter tires good on deep snow like the KO2s are? That and gravel are the only two places I've been happy with my KO2 performance.
Might have to stick with 285/70R17.
Thanks for the feedback. I was hoping Nokian rubber compound and some more Sipes would increase winter performance but it sounds like the compromise of an AT tire makes them the same as every other 3 peak Mountain Snowflake AT.
Are the dedicated winter tires good on deep snow like the KO2s are? That and gravel are the only two places I've been happy with my KO2 performance.
aknightinak
Active member
Better, no question. KOs and KO2s are both so hard of a compound by comparison, they also have a spot on my most reviled list of winter tires. The colder it gets, the less the rubber flexes, and that's part of what a snow tire has going for it---softer compounds that retain malleability in the cold.
When I decide my snows have served their life as a winter tire, I pull the studs and get a couple more years out of them as an AT. I've never missed having a dedicated summer AT by doing this.