Oh no - Express busted door hinge

45Kevin

Adventurer
Not sure how to handle this.
Lube and weld existing hinge?
New hinge?

Either way I got welding to do.
Is there a better way to go?
Bolt on hinges?
Greaseable hinges?

Anyone else had to deal with this?
I know it is a weak point on the express vans and have been spraying this hinge with penetrating fluid several times a year as it has been stiff opening for a while.

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NatersXJ6

Explorer
Go new. Your odds of welding that and maintaining acceptable pin alignment are very low.

I see two options:

1 new hinge(s) welded on by body shop
2 weld door shut Dukes of Hazard style... admittedly not very effective for a van...
 

45Kevin

Adventurer
I've been looking around on the interwebs and there is quite a lot of info.
Replacement hinges, that bolt on, are available for $100++. That might be the way to go.
You need to drill out the spot welds on the existing hinges.
You'd have to be pretty accurate with your holes though.
 

bejinscbr

New member
Go to the GM dealer and get the replacement hinge kit. Comes with hinge and all bolts to do job. Your only issue would be paint. It's actually pretty easy to do. Drill out spot welds, bolt on new hinge.
 

45Kevin

Adventurer
Go to the GM dealer and get the replacement hinge kit. Comes with hinge and all bolts to do job. Your only issue would be paint. It's actually pretty easy to do. Drill out spot welds, bolt on new hinge.

I did got to the dealer today, and I would have paid a little more than the on-line prices, just to buy local.

But they wanted $300 and suggested I do both hinges to get a proper alignment. $600, holy f&$k.

So I'll try welding it this weekend and order one on-line in case it doesn't work.
 

bejinscbr

New member
How much are you seeing online? Last time I bought a single hinge, it was around 80-90 I think at the dealer. Granted with a discount, but not too bad. If you only do one and it's bolted on you can play with the alignment to get it straight.
 

45Kevin

Adventurer
How much are you seeing online? Last time I bought a single hinge, it was around 80-90 I think at the dealer. Granted with a discount, but not too bad. If you only do one and it's bolted on you can play with the alignment to get it straight.

Yeah, WOW indeed.

I found a hinge on-line for US$79 and by the time it gets to my place it will be CDN$130. No choice I guess, and the pic only showed the hinge, no backers or bolts. We will see.

I will try welding it tomorrow. I have nothing to loose.
 

45Kevin

Adventurer
I got my welder out today and had at 'er.

It is really tight and you only really have access to the top and the front side of the hinge.
I put a layer of masking tape and then a layer of metal duct tape to protect the paint from weld splatter.
My first try broke after a few short (maybe 10 degree) swings of the door.
I welded again and applied my penetrating oil (50/50 mix of acetone and tranny fluid) and swung the door (10-15 degrees) until it broke again.
I did this several times, each time getting a few more degrees of swing.
Eventually, mud started to drip out of the bottom of the hinge.
At this time I got out my air hammer and low and behold the pin started to move up. A couple of hammer it up and down and it came all the way out.
It was very pitted where it was located in the center part of the hinge.
With the pin out I could move the door and get much better access to the hinge. I ground off the previous weld attempts and ground the broken part of the hinge, now that it was free of the pin.
So, with both end of the break cleaned up, I reinserted the pin to align everything and I did a final weld.
I then removed the pin again and with door slightly askew I ground down the new welds to neaten it up and make it ready for paint.
Finally, I applied my favorite anti-seize and hammered the pin back into position.
Success. The door now swings freer than it ever has.
I got a little damage to the door paint from the seized hinge rubbing on it.
I'll pick up a can of matching paint and fix it tomorrow. For now the primer will protect the metal.

I have a new hinge in the mail. We will see what I get and may or may not need to install it. Time will tell.

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45Kevin

Adventurer
Then I took the van out for spin in the mountains.

I did a very challenging (for a full sized AWD van) trail and was very impressed, once again, with the van's ability.

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Bikersmurf

Expedition Leader
If you have enough meat in the hinge, I’d recommend using ‘OiLite’ bronze bushings to ensure it doesn’t freeze up again.
 

45Kevin

Adventurer
I got my new hinge delivered today.
It appears to be a genuine GM replacement part, complete hinge kit.
At a much better price than the dealer.
My wife has had the van on a road trip all week and hasn't reported any problems with the repaired hinge, so I'll probably hold off replacing it.
I did score a hinge pin with a grease zerk from the pick-n-pull on the weekend though, that I will put in the repaired hinge.

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