Plumbing 'bus heater' into 04 fg- questions..

Endoftheroad

New member
I want to add a bus heater into my coolant system for the free heat when mobile . A couple of questions..
1. Are there 'ports' somewhere to tie into, or just 'T' into the coolant lines ?
2. Do I need, or should I add a circulation pump to get the coolant to my bus heater unit, approx 12' one way.
3. If I add a circulation pump , where/which line should I put it on- don't want to hinder cooling system.
Thanks all for the wealth of knowledge here..
 

gait

Explorer
I tee'd into cab heater hoses, close to engine. I have one "small" (single 120mm fan), one "large" (2 x 120mm fans), a towel rail and calorifier. No extra pump required. I used standard heater valve. Recently installed motorised ball valve but not yet tested. Very nice to get to end of drive and have warm house. I switch to diesel hot water heater when stationary.
 
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SkiFreak

Crazy Person
Plumbing in a hydronic heater should not be an issue.
As you have mentioned, the prime focus here needs to be not affecting the cooling of the engine. To that end, you need to tap into one of the parallel heating circuits. The obvious one is the truck's cabin heater circuit.
The problem with fluid motion is that it will always take the path of least resistance, so with your heater being 12 feet away you may not get any flow, unless (as you say) you add a small circulation pump.
Alternately, you can plumb your heater in series with the cabin heater circuit. The cabin heater circuit itself (as mentioned) is a parallel circuit in the trucks cooling system. That is why you can turn off the coolant flow from the dash in that circuit and not blow up the truck. This is how I have plumbed in the calorifier (water heater) in my truck, but it is only about 4 feet away, not 12 feet.

Personally, if I were doing the install I would use a small circulation pump and plumb the heater into the cab heater circuit in parallel.
Where you tap the "to the heater" line into the circuit is also important. If done after the cab heater tap then the cab heater needs to be on for you to get flow to your additional heater. If done before the tap then you may have to include your own tap for that heater circuit, or you won't be able to turn the additional heater off.
If you were to use a small, positive displacement circulation pump it would give you good flow to your additional heater and when not running would act as a tap. If you wanted to use a separate tap and a normal centrifugal circulation pump, then you could use a solenoid based or motorized valve, that you could turn on or off from the cab. I use motorized valves in my hydronic setup to give me different flow options.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
... the only thing I have to add is that I would use a liquid-to-liquid heat exchanger inline with the cab heater core, and have the circulation pump in that subsystem. I would be nervous about adding in a lot of extra plumbing that is tied directly to the cooling system, but with a heat exchanger if anything happens it will not impact the core engine systems.


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dtruzinski

4 Season Traveller
I installed an espar hydronic in parallel into my heating system. I used Y connectors to tap the heater lines and then ran 3/4 silicon heater hose wrapped in pipe insulation to the heater 15 feet away. With the espar, you have a recirculation pump, but that is not used when I am driving and heating from the engine. The system you described should work fine IMO

The blue circles in the diagram are valves to isolate the system in case an emergency repair is needed. They also allow me to control the flow to just heat water in the Isotherm or heat water and run my cabin heaters.

View attachment FusoHydronicHeater-v3.pdf
 

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