Quigley with Airbags in the Frontsprings

[keeper]

In the frontsprings of our Quigley there are Airbags....in the back..ok...but for what I can use them in the front? I feel no different taking more or less air in it.
If I put them out of there did I need bumpstoppers in the front?

 

[simple]

Can you post a picture? I'd like to see the arrangement for curiosity sake. I'm sure there's folks on here though that are already familiar with your setup.

 

[BajaSportsmobile]

In the frontsprings of our Quigley there are Airbags....in the back..ok...but for what I can use them in the front? I feel no different taking more or less air in it.
If I put them out of there did I need bumpstoppers in the front?

We have removed a few sets of those from Quigleys - another band-aid fix to keep them form bottoming out all the time.

 

[keeper]

 

[keeper]

Is the axle only able to move this small way up (can not look under it in the moment)?

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[simple]

We have removed a few sets of those from Quigleys - another band-aid fix to keep them form bottoming out all the time.

Did Quigley also use that system to so they could fit a smaller diameter coil spring in there?

 

[BajaSportsmobile]

Did Quigley also use that system to so they could fit a smaller diameter coil spring in there?

No, Quigley is restricted to using OEM Ford components from the van. These blue air bags are something someone installed to try to solve the under-sprung situation.

You can see in his pictures that there is only about 1.5 inches of bump travel. The bags won't lift the van only make it harder to bottom it out. Bad deal!

 

[keeper]

Ok, hard by hit the stop or hard by high presure...what a wonderful choise ....

 

[Arctic Travelller]

The bags won't lift the van only make it harder to bottom it out. Bad deal!

With the current set up, bag removal will make it even easier to bottom out correct? Sounds like an even worse deal until proper springs and shocks are installed right? Hummm, wonder where he could find those?

 

[flightcancled]

Quigley is restricted to using OEM Ford components from the van.

What's the deal with that? Insurance or Patents?

 

[martell06]

I think since they were sold on Ford lots A. They had to as required by Ford - easier to service
B. Keeps conversion cost to a minumum

 

[derjack]

What's the deal with that? Insurance or Patents?

Nothing to do with patents. IF this would have to do patents Quigley would have to pay a fee AND they would not be allowed to change anything critical, which they did. This is generally the "idea" of patents.

I guess it comes down to costs and cut corners. Its just faster and cheaper "engeneering" to build something around a none fitting thing (solid axle) to make it kind of fit. Using the old parts saves a LOT of engeneering costs and (very important) after sales costs in the long run. Imagine a fleet that wants to have save repair parts for 10 years!
The other way for a 4x4 would cost Quigley way beyond they did with this cut-corner-4x4. There is a lot of "if you do this, you need to do that....".

 

[ert01]

I think it also comes down to warranty... If Quigley can do a conversion using mainly Ford parts and sell them on Ford lots, then warranty work is:

1) easier for the Ford tech to do since the parts are stocked in their warehouses
2) familiar parts for the Ford techs to use
3) the parts are not made by Quigley, so if a coil spring sags or breaks due to manufacturer defect, then it's on Ford, not Quigley

IMHO it's a smart way to build. It ensures that even if Quigley goes under, that the van owners can still find parts and service.