Here is a link to NORA, please call to voice your opinions.
http://www.nora-usa.com/takeaction/index.cfm
http://www.nora-usa.com/takeaction/index.cfm
Save the RUBICON TRAIL
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silvergrand
Adventurer
I'm getting more and more upset with our "elected government". They are taking my earnings away from me and my family, telling me I'm a potential terrorist, restricting my families recreational activities, violating the Constitution, that they swore to uphold, on a daily basis....I don't even know if I'll recognize our country by 2010 when we have our first chance to peacfully correct this Blitzkrieg into socialism/facisism.
Even after this rant, I still feel no better!
Even after this rant, I still feel no better!
astateofmike
Observer
Like the signs says:
"I'll keep my God, guns and money. You keep the change."
I hate seeing the few who ruin it for the more...the one idiot that chooses to drive/ride off trail, drink, get all aggressive with other trail users etc..as much as the next guy. Seems that dealing with the problem is not as easy as elimination of everyone's rights.
And I am all for the intelligent protection of wilderness areas also....but closing trails that have been there for ever......there may be better, albeit more complex, methods to solve this dilema.
However, we all must take a stand. Compromise and concessions for mutual agreement are fine when BOTH sides want to benefit...in the case of some of these closures, the compromise must appear like an invitation to strip away everything from the "minority" interest/enthusiast...
And you are correct "1/20/2010:Change we can believe in."
"I'll keep my God, guns and money. You keep the change."
I hate seeing the few who ruin it for the more...the one idiot that chooses to drive/ride off trail, drink, get all aggressive with other trail users etc..as much as the next guy. Seems that dealing with the problem is not as easy as elimination of everyone's rights.
And I am all for the intelligent protection of wilderness areas also....but closing trails that have been there for ever......there may be better, albeit more complex, methods to solve this dilema.
However, we all must take a stand. Compromise and concessions for mutual agreement are fine when BOTH sides want to benefit...in the case of some of these closures, the compromise must appear like an invitation to strip away everything from the "minority" interest/enthusiast...
And you are correct "1/20/2010:Change we can believe in."
paulj
Expedition Leader
Read this other Rubicon thread, and some of the Water Board documents before you get all hot under the collar. Try to understand this issues. Action alerts by national groups like this tell only part of the story.
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26044
Water board documents
http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/centralvalley/board_decisions/tentative_orders/0904/index.shtml#12
El Dorado County and the United States Department of Agriculture, El Dorado National Forest, Rubicon Trail, El Dorado County – Consideration of a Cleanup and Abatement Order
NORA is lying to you. The water board is not calling for the closure of this trail.
http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26044
Water board documents
http://www.swrcb.ca.gov/centralvalley/board_decisions/tentative_orders/0904/index.shtml#12
El Dorado County and the United States Department of Agriculture, El Dorado National Forest, Rubicon Trail, El Dorado County – Consideration of a Cleanup and Abatement Order
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Ursidae69
Traveller
In addition to the link paulj provided, the potential closures were already discussed a few weeks ago here: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25282
I agree, and thankfully the regime changed last November!!
Mods: Feel free to remove this political drivel, even mine.
silvergrand said:
I agree, and thankfully the regime changed last November!!
Mods: Feel free to remove this political drivel, even mine.
paulj
Expedition Leader
This is a newspaper article on the Water Board meeting April 24
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090424/A_NEWS/904240321/-1/A_NEWS14
It appears that the board accepted the staff recommendations, which in effect tell the county and forest service to work together to address the erosion and excrement problems, and setting some deadlines for action.
Closure in wet weather as on FS roads in the district seems likely.
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090424/A_NEWS/904240321/-1/A_NEWS14
It appears that the board accepted the staff recommendations, which in effect tell the county and forest service to work together to address the erosion and excrement problems, and setting some deadlines for action.
Closure in wet weather as on FS roads in the district seems likely.