So you want to drill your roof and put in NMO mounts...

4RunAmok

Explorer
I get asked all the time about installing NMO mounts. Especially since I have a 4Runner with a Sunroof that I'm still able to use... (This write up will be specific to my 4runner, and it's headliner. Everything else applies to any other vehicle)

I did do the job myself, with a small amount of help from a friend for the extra arms when I needed them. I did not take pics during the installation. I wasn't on forums back then, and didn't document everything I did like I do now for the sake of the forums, lol :)

Items you need:

Regarding the headliner. Yes it has to come down, but not all the way unless you want it to, but that’s more work.
  1. Remove the rear dome light first.
  2. Remove the top rear panel (The one that had the light in it)
  3. You will need to remove rear-most side panels either entirely (which will require removing the plastic kick panel at the bottom of the rear door) or just pull the tops down and use a bungee cord to hold them down.

Now the headliner edges are exposed from the rear, remove the 4 clips (these will break, so pick up the matching color clips from the dealer, they're cheap), the headliner should now be dangling from the front, you should see the sunroof and the sheet metal behind it. Make sure nothing is in the way, like wiring. Either proceed with complete removal by moving to release the headliner from the front, or just deal with it being in the way a little bit.

Exit to the exterior. Put some thought into the placement... because where you put this hole will determine some things later in life: Such as how big of a cargo rack you can use, Such as how far forward a roof top tent can be mounted, etc... I chose the exact middle between the roof rack rail fronts and the sunroof (which only put it a few inches behind the sunroof. Lay down some masking tape, the tan or blue kind, where you believe center of the truck to be and above that point behind the sunroof you want the mount to be. Measure from one side of the truck to the other (I chose to use the crease in the sheet metal, measured from crease to crease) and find the center, and mark a center line on the tape. Double check your distance from the rack rails and sunroof, and mark that distance along your centerline.

The tape is not only to mark your measurements, but it will protect the paint from chipping while you drill your hole, so press it down onto the paint firmly. Say your prayers, realize there is no turning back, and drill the hole. It also helps to use a very good sharp sheet metal drill bit

I used a Diamond NMO because of its low profile beneath the roof AND because it uses a 3/8” hole instead of the usual 3/4” hole others use.

I used the Silicon Gel Lubricant to coat the underside of the NMO piece that sits atop the roof (keep it away from the threads, just "bead" the outside edge), the part with the o-ring that I also coated with the lube, both as a lubricant, and as a waterproofing method. I used the Loctite on the threads to waterproof them as well as secure the mount from coming loose.
The help of the friend really comes in handy here, because someone is going to have to hold the bottom of the mount on the inside, while someone puts on the Loctite and screws on the top piece and tightens it from the outside. Tighten firmly with a wrench, and the mount is installed.

Now for the duct tape, I chose this because it handles extreme temps that a rooftop might get sitting in the sun. I used this to secure the coax to the roof, and in 5 years, that tape isn't even peeling. This is a MUST so that the sunroof doesn't snag the coax. Clean the sheet metal with some acetone or 409, put a strip from the NMO mount to the pillar you chose to run the coax down the side of the vehicle. Now take a small piece of the tape and secure the coax at the pillar, and run a second piece of tape, sandwiching the coax between the two pieces of tape. This just gives the tape a nice surface to stick to, one that it's used to sticking to, and maybe protects the coax from the heat of the sheet metal...maybe.. I didn't do any tests to confirm, I'm just OCD that way, I'll take whatever extra protection I can get.

Now that that coax is run down the pillar, you can button up the headliner. It was no easy task getting that coax down the pillar, so have the right tools (which I did not at the time) or have some patience. I chose to go down INSIDE the pillar, because that coax is thin and fragile, and I camp and offroad and I didn't want it getting pinched between my gear and the body, eliminating my communication if I needed to use it and no practical way of field fixing it. OCD kicking in again.

From this point, you now have the coax inside the vehicle, free to run it almost anywhere you want, it’s not long enough to run to the other side of the vehicle, but that’s why you should choose the proper pillar to bring the coax down!
 

wheelerdh

K4WHE
I did something similar (twice) in my 07 4Runner. Though I didn't pull anything out such as lights or panels.

I used Larsen standard size NMO mounts, one for Ham and other for CB antenna. The Ham antenna is mounted closer to the sunroof. Looking inside the cab I justified just behind where the headliner slopes down toward the back. Used my blue tape, marked and drilled using (for me) a NMO hole saw, which incidentally is a little different size than using the corresponding size unibit.

Aimed the coax toward the C-post and fed the wire. Did pull the door seal and the grab handle and used a coat hanger to grab the coax. Ran the coax to the INSIDE of the airbag and down the B-post up under the carpet to the opening where the vent is under the seat.

CB mount is justified about 18 inches behind the ham mount and fed the coax out the back pulling the hatch seal and feeding it around the panels to the B-post where the other coax is run and follow the same route.

One thing I would suggest is to lightly file the edges of the hole you just drilled as to not cut on the coax jacketing. Don't force anything and only use gentle pressure when drilling. It is a gut check doing it to your own vehicle (though I've done plenty of NMO drilling in my time) but I think the end result is well worth it. Your drill bit will probably grab some of the headliner insulation. It's ok (looks sort of like cotton), no problem with it, just push what's coming through the hole back down.

If you like to wheel find an antenna is pretty flexible and/or has a spring in it. Some are quite still and will snag and break on tree limbs. But with your NMO mount you have tons of ground plain for a better signal. It does make a difference when you're out there and need help.

73
 

4RunAmok

Explorer
I'm also running two, I use a Larsen NMO 2/70 for the Ham, and a Larsen 27 for the CB.

On the Diamond NMO mounts I linked to in my post... You would not be able to do this. The coax doesn't go through the 3/8" hole, the NMO (I forgot the name of it, but it's the part that the spring on the antenna connects to) goes UP through the hole FROM the bottom, and the top piece threads onto that bottom piece from above, and the sheet metal becomes sandwiched between.

You could not get it tight without someone holding that bottom piece.

There might be easier NMO mounts out there, but I am NOT cutting a 3/4 hole in the top. If the antenna gets caught on something, it's just too large of an opening and could pull out and bend up the roof.
 

kjp1969

Explorer
I did a similar install- +1 on dropping the whole headliner- much more convenient than dropping it part way. Tape a paper bag up under so that metal shavings fall in the bag- those little bits go everywhere otherwise.
Also, the silver foil tape used on furnace duct installs (the stuff they should be using instead of duct tape) is magical for pasting down wires and is impervious to moderate heat like the interior of a car.
 

4RunAmok

Explorer
Agreed on the silver foil tape.

I should also remind the tape part is only important to those who have sunroofs that might snag the coax when you open it.

So if you have a solid roof, you can skip that step, except for maybe small strips of tape to (even if only) temporarily hold the coax safely while you button up the headliner.
 

rusty_tlc

Explorer
I like that mount, I used it for this roll cage install

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Lots easier than making a bracket large enough for a 3/4" hole.
Especially with a trick tab

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