Spare tire innovation

G35Vortec454

Adventurer
I'm looking for a spare tire alternative and I'm thinking of using inner tubes for temporary/spare purposes. With the total weight of 2 full spares approaching 250 lbs., it's impractical to carry two spares (my wheels are steel 19.5 dually with 14-ply tires on my 10,500lbs RV). I'd rather not carry any spares and carry inner tubes instead.

So, the question is: Can a tubeless tire use an inner tube?
 

Robthebrit

Explorer
Yes in most cases for short periods of time, I would only do it for an emergency as the tube will heat up and the tubeless bead does not always seat as good as it should. In addition you might have have to mount your own tires, tire shops may not be willing to do it for you, this is especially true of the big shops due to liability and the fact that tubed tires require a different mounting tool. If you mount them yourself be careful not to burst the tube, if you do burst the tube you'll never know as the tire itself will hold air, you'll only find out when you get a flat.

One thing to think about is the condition of the tire after its burst. If you drive over a nail or something equally small you can fix it with a vulcanizing (sp?) rubber plug. If the damage is so great that a plug or patch cannot be used you will not be able to run a tube, either the tube will protrude through the hole in the tire and burst, or the tire itself will burst the tube.

To get it to reliably work you would have to pull the tire from the rim, use bailing wire to stitch up the gash in the structure and put a good sized patch on the inside. Thats a lot of work and you can probably make it airtight without a spare.

I would get a set of tire irons and wedges and practice mounting/unmounting them by hand, then just take additional tires with you. Its a good skill to have regardlessly.
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
The size tire would concern me. Half size (19.5) rims usually do not run a safety bead. As soon as you lose pressure the bead will separate. That means about the time you realize you have lost pressure you may have already done significant damage to the tire. I'd make a compromise of one complete spare with rim and a couple inner tubes.
 

G35Vortec454

Adventurer
Grim...,

" Half size (19.5) rims usually do not run a safety bead."

Good input. As I didn't know this, I'll prove it and deflate one of my tires and see if I can inflate it back (of course, I mean without using a tool like a strap tightened around the circumference of the tire). I'll report back.
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
G35Vortec454 said:
Grim...,

" Half size (19.5) rims usually do not run a safety bead."

Good input. As I didn't know this, I'll prove it and deflate one of my tires and see if I can inflate it back (of course, I mean without using a tool like a strap tightened around the circumference of the tire). I'll report back.

You might be able to tell without breaking down the wheel. you can usualy feel where the bead is rolled into a steel rim. I know that the 16.5 rims don't have it and I am pretty sure all the 1/2 size are concidered high pressure heavy duty but I might be wrong.


More info on 1/2 size with a cross section of the rim.
http://www.firestoneag.com/tiredata/info/info_safety_1.asp
 

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