Stiff OME Ride

Box Rocket

Well-known member
Any for a stock truck without bumper/winch/etc I would absolutely agree, however the lighter coils with these items will result in a serious amount of rake and lack of clearance for even 32" tires.



Again, the 880, 881 and 882 all have the same spring rate, so ride quality difference will be negligible between them all. All you get is height.

My personal experience. I've put a couple hundred thousand miles on 882 coils between my two Tacomas, I in fact started with the 881's on my 96' ex-cab and even with just the ARB winchbar and other amassing accessories, the 881's were dropping. I installed the 882's, added a winch and ended up leaving it with 882's with the 5mm trim spacers offered by OME. Its been in the hands of the new owner for 3 years and its still running the same stuff, he's happy as a clam with it. On my personal Tacoma I started right off the bat with the 882's and spacers but I installed the bumper, winch, etc the exact same day. It worked nicely but as my truck got even heavier it needed a bit more boost. Several renditions later including a brief stint with the Tundra TRD/Bilstein setups and I'm right back to the 882's, now running ~5/8" of spacers. This truck does get beat pretty well off-road, ~5k+ miles in the dirt this year and holding. I would actually be happy with a tad more lift in the front to get me closer to that 3" lift to match the back springs.

I followed Kurt's suggestions to go with 882's on my own Tacoma (including about the same ~.5" of spacer that Kurt has) and I have yet to add a bumper and winch. I love the 882's. The control feels really good to me and when i've had it offroad, they have handled the bumps really well. After some "sprited" desert runs I frequently have a smile on my face from how well the truck handles with the OME suspension. My only complaint is with the Dakar springs not having enough load capacity without using an AAL. When the truck is unloaded the Dakars feel good without the AAL, but when I get a load in it, I'm wanting a higher springrate. Otherwise I've been really happy with the OME stuff.
 

Box Rocket

Well-known member
Kurt,
If I didn't say it earlier this combo does well off road - I feel well connected to the trail - and on flat pavement it does fine. However it is rough pavement or pavement with decent seams that this thing really beats you.

What air pressure do you typically run in your tires on the road? I feel a drastic difference in ride quality changing from 30psi to 35psi on the road. Even a small drop in air pressure improved the ride on rough pavement and highway expansion joints.
 

AxeAngel

Expedition Leader
I will echo what Kurt and the others have said. I run the extra HD OME suspension and it can be bone jarring when the vehicle is fully unladen. The XHD is really for those with front and rear bumpers, winches, sliders and carrying gear. Without all that, if you run the XHD suspension, it is not a pleasant ride. Even just over inflating the tires with the XHD makes it pretty harsh.

-Sam
 

Mr. Leary

Glamping Excursionaire
What air pressure do you typically run in your tires on the road? I feel a drastic difference in ride quality changing from 30psi to 35psi on the road. Even a small drop in air pressure improved the ride on rough pavement and highway expansion joints.

I was gonna ask the same question. Try playing with the tire pressure first, then the suspension. My truck rattles me badly on washboards at my highway pressure (45F / 48R psi), but rides smooth as silk with my gravel / dirt pressure (20F / 23R psi). If I'm down to rough terrain pressure (15F / 18R psi) it soaks up bumps fine but feels floaty when I get going faster than about 30 mph.

Are you running tires that are "E" rated?
 

mattafact

Adventurer
I had the Icon coilovers on my Tundra and they were incredible on and off road. But at $1200 a pair you get what you pay for. My GF daily drove it for the last year or so and never once complained about the ride like she does about my stock 2nd gen 4runner. Just my .02c
 

keezer37

Explorer
I had the Icon coilovers on my Tundra and they were incredible on and off road. But at $1200 a pair you get what you pay for. My GF daily drove it for the last year or so and never once complained about the ride like she does about my stock 2nd gen 4runner. Just my .02c

If you are willing to part with the cash, they are a no-brainer. When I went from the stock bumper to the ARB, I didn't need to adjust the height and the ride quality stayed the same. They did need a rebuild after three years which was another two bills with the shipping.
It's a good product and they know it. That's when you start paying for the name. They were pricey three years ago when I bought them at $1050 and are higher now.
 
Any for a stock truck without bumper/winch/etc I would absolutely agree, however the lighter coils with these items will result in a serious amount of rake and lack of clearance for even 32" tires.

Right on. In my feverish flu-haze, I think I missed that he had the winch, bumper, etc. I just recall how strongly the ARB tech seemed to be on a mission to dissuade people from the 882's unless they had some serious rig riding on them. I suspect the ARB guys get a few gripes when their kits get mis-matched.

90% of the time I travel without a passenger and with modest cargo, no fancy bumper likely never will, stock tire size, likely will remain so, etc. So the OME light kit was magical for me compared to the stock crap it replaced. :smiley_drive:
 

czenkov

Adventurer
What air pressure do you typically run in your tires on the road? I feel a drastic difference in ride quality changing from 30psi to 35psi on the road. Even a small drop in air pressure improved the ride on rough pavement and highway expansion joints.

Front: 32psi
Rear: 30psi
BFG AT's. 255/75/16. Switched to the AT's as the KM2's caused a pretty good vibration. They are now on my Defender.
 
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J-man

Adventurer
Looks like my truck.
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Switching from 255/85's to 35's seemed to smooth out my ride. :costumed-smiley-007
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Niice looking runner.
 

Mr. Leary

Glamping Excursionaire
Ya know... re-reading your first post it struck me that the problem may not be with the suspension. Is this a constant problem, even on smoother roads, or is this just on little bumps or more washboard type roads?

I'm worried that you may have something out of balance or a lubrication problem that is causing vibration.
 

czenkov

Adventurer
Mr. Leary, Smooth roads are not an issue. Just rough ones. Off-road it does fine, smooth roads are fine, and big potholes are fine. It is the "in need of repair to smooth out bad quality work" or "lets patch that with not enough or too much asphalt so many times that we should have tore it out and repaved" that is the issue. :) And unfortunately in Utah there are lots of those!
 

cruiseroutfit

Well-known member
How many miles were on your truck before you put in brand new suspension?

Also, where are OME882's listed on the Tacoma application page by ARB? Getting back to what ObGobOobaleeney was saying.

http://www.arbusa.com/uploads/PDF/accessorizeYourRig/toyotaTacoma.pdf


Do tell, what is the application for 882's? ARBUSA sure stocks a bunch of them, is there that many Prado 90's in the Americas market? ;)

I won't speak for all the other shops that list he 882 as the 'heavy' option for Tacoma's or 4Runners but there is a reason I offer it, because I got sick of the winch/bumper equipped trucks with 881's complaining about the 1.5" or less lift they were getting out of 2" advertised suspension. You'll find plenty satisfied with the 882's, that speaks for itself no? The spring rate (ride quality) is the virtually the same, so if czenkov's complaints were purely height then yeah its a no brainer the 881's would be the better option.

The ARB application guides are a great staring point, but they are incomplete/outdated in some instances and in those cases, experience trumps. Take for instance the OME 881 coils, in 2002 OME listed them as a 1.75" heavy load Tacoma lift, but by 2004/06 they were back to calling them a 1.50" heavy load lift (feedback from customers?), now we are currently back to calling the same coils (specs have not changed per the application guide) a 2.00" lift. Likewise on the 4Runner, the 881 was advertised as 1.25" with a "heavy" load, its most recently advertised as 1.75". I'd be interested to know how this variance came to be because in my many installs the older advertised heights we par not exceptions.

May sound trivial to discuss 1/2" of difference but I can assure you that a customer whom thinks he's getting 2" with load isn't too happy when they are getting just over an inch when loaded after a years use. Combine that with a net of 3" unloaded out of an advertised 2.25" in the back and the rake is unbearable for many. I've run the 881's on my personal Tacoma with an ARB bar and 9k winch, under the 110-220 lb load recommendation and I can promise you that after 6 months I did not get 2" of lift out of them, 1.5" would have been nice even. As customers continue to build, modify and use these trucks, they are getting heavier and heavier particularly permanent mods in the front. While the back loads are transient, loaded when on trips, the fronts are often constants. It used to be a bar and a winch, maybe a couple lights. Now its dual batteries, motor swaps, shower systems, welder systems, compressors. Vendors have responded to that and imo the 'heavy 881' has morphed to the medium option and the 882 has proven to be a successful heavy option for many. If you want a list of other things that are missing or incomplete from ARB's application guides I'd be happy to forward them your way ;)
 

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