today's word is: downsize

haven

Expedition Leader
The National Association of Broadcasters convention is in Las Vegas this week. Among the satellite uplink trucks, camera booms, signal switchers and green screen backgrounds, I noticed a guerilla movement of sorts. There were several companies selling video rigs based around the Canon 5D mark 2.

Most of the Canon rigs were designed for run-and-gun, on location sort of news gathering, but some were designed for set pieces where the camera would be on a tripod rather than a steadicam. In the world of broadcast TV, where a video camera lens costs $150,000, the 5D can be purchased with the loose change found under the cushions of the couch in the station manager's office.

The 5D is gaining more credibility all the time. For example, the final episode of the popular TV series "House" was shot in 1080p using the 5D exclusively. Read one article about it here:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/13/canon-5d-mark-ii-used-to-shoot-entire-house-season-finale-direc/

And here's a comment from Jonas Pate, producer and director for "Caprica," the prequel to the "Battlestar Galactica" series. (Ever wonder where the Cylons came from?) The first season of the series was shown recently on the SciFi channel.
"We used the 5D a lot in the production of the first season. I became curious about the camera from a friend, and began to use it to shoot inserts, little things really, that would save us time because the camera is so light and facile. But the more I shot, the more I really loved the depth of field and the vibrancy of its images, so that by the end of the season, I was shooting entire sequences of the show with the camera. Go check out the show on Hulu; you'll never be able to tell what we shot with it and what we didn't. The camera's just stupendous."

So Canon is in the unfortunate position of inventing the technology that may make its high-end video gear obsolete. It's being replaced by Canon's pro still camera.

The word is: Downsize.
 
M

modelbuilder

Guest
I work in the entertainment industry as a Medic on film, tv, and commercial sets. Both the 5D as well as the 7D are being used more and more on all kinds of shows. There's an evergrowing number of aftermarket accessories for them including things like follow focus rigs, lens adapters, etc.

Between the Canons and the RED high def video cams it's a brave new world out there.

Cool stuff.

How can I get into that field =)
 

john101477

Photographer in the Wild
it's funny because the week that nikon mentioned putting video in the D90 I told a bunch of photog buddies "just wait, in another few years the video in SLR's will be used for Tv and movie's. With out a doubt Nikon rushed to produce the video capabilities before canon could but canon finished it off right by making it 1080 and having the correct FPS available. Now Nikon finds itself trailing yet again but I suppose it is a saw horse effect. nikon is top dog for a few then canon is top dog for a few. I am sure next year Canon will be offering something equivalent to nikons high ISO for video.

Personally, because i spent so much in glass for Nikon, I can not just up and switch now so I humbly await the announcement for the D700s (hopefully with redesigned video, ISO, and interface)
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Here's another example of downsizing. This video was shot using
a relatively inexpensive radio controlled helicopter with a Canon 550D
carried underneath.

http://vimeo.com/10878737

Certainly there would be a much greater chance that the camera
would not capture a usable sequence when there's no cameraman!
But for an establishing shot I think the RC helicopter could work well.

Here's what the RC rig looks like

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5519302&id=394861326398
 

greg mgm

Explorer
I've been into video for a couple years now and going with a Canon 5D (Or similar) would solve a couple problems for me. One is getting a narrower depth of field...and two would be to replace one of my cameras that is old and not functioning right. Also using SD cards is the direction I'd like to go instead of mini dv tapes.

For monitoring....how can that be done if the camera is on a RC helicopter?
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
I believe some of them are using a cheap RF video camera to view the scene from the ground.

Now... aren't there some problems using an SLR for video? IIRC, something about not being able to zoom, or change focus, while filming? Or did they get past that already?

For myself, I like the video coming out my Sony XR-500V Handicam. I would love to see it compared to these SLR's. I'd imagine mine is lacking in depth of field (rather, depth of field is not narrow enough), but it's low light performance, and overall clarity is pretty amazing. And for $900 instead of upgrading to a 5D... seemed a worthwhile investment to me. I compared the images from the XR500V to some of the semi-pro video cams from Sony and Canon, and couldn't see any difference. I think the real difference is just in features.

When viewing these, keep in mind some quality is obviously lost when the video was downsampled to 720, and Youtube compression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihA6E8pYC44&feature=PlayList&p=C071A6104F545F17&playnext_from=PL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Y3oV9vSmI&feature=PlayList&p=C071A6104F545F17&playnext_from=PL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUjdCCFCak&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFfzanZdnxc&feature=related
 

greg mgm

Explorer
Hey...nice work! I really like the winter shots with your Glidecam.

I rigged up a monopod with a handle and weights for my Canon XH A1 and it's worked very good for me. I like cheap alternatives. :sombrero:
 

Every Miles A Memory

Expedition Leader
Someone mentioned how much this is saving the film industry by switching to these DSLR sized bodies.

Think how much the RC Helicopter will save the industry alone. We've looked into chartering helicopters for a photo shoot and I about broke my jaw when it hit the floor so hard when they gave us the price of $5000 per hour for flight time.

You could probably buy, install the gyro and camera rig for a few hours worth of rental time....and then own the rig for more video. Not to mention how cool the footage looks when shot this way!

The RED High Def cam is still such a drool factor for me, but the 5D Mark II and the 7D are making it more a reality
 

DrMoab

Explorer
I have a buddy who owns an RC hobby shop.

He built several of those helicopters for the Utah Highway Patrol. They are using them to photo crash scenes when they cover a large area. I can't remember how many he said they built but it was quite a few and they were expensive.
 

dzzz

I've used the 5DII for video since it was introduced. But the new Canon 2Ti/550 is almost as good for video for a lot less money. Within a year there will be complete large sensor videocams that will include important features like internal ND filters and proper video viewfinders.
I believe the House season finale is May 17. Pretty weird to shoot an episode of the most watched television show in the world on a camera that can be purchased at Best Buy.
 

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