USFS Crew Buggy- DIESEL

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Just thinking that would be the ultimate stealth camper since everyone would just think it was hotshots or something.
 

shmabs

Explorer
I called the guy selling it, and he doesn't speak English and I don't speak Spanish, so I didn't get very far. If someone is considering that truck, get me the VIN and I might be able to pull all the Forest Service maintenance history on it.
 

uncompromise

Adventurer
Interestingly there is a similar vehicle available for about $12K more on Truck Trader

http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/listing/2002-International-4300--114902529

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Fargone

New member
The state literally gets prison inmates to do the maintenance on these things, and I have seen crew drivers barrel down double track that would make lifted Rubicons blush at 50mph. Assume if they're selling it the only reason is it's trashed and no longer economical to operate.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
The state literally gets prison inmates to do the maintenance on these things, and I have seen crew drivers barrel down double track that would make lifted Rubicons blush at 50mph. Assume if they're selling it the only reason is it's trashed and no longer economical to operate.

In my experience US government vehicles are regularly maintained to a strict schedule by GSA. I'm not familiar with them having state prison inmates take on that task, but of course could be mistaken.
 

uncompromise

Adventurer
I called the guy selling it, and he doesn't speak English and I don't speak Spanish, so I didn't get very far. If someone is considering that truck, get me the VIN and I might be able to pull all the Forest Service maintenance history on it.

I don't speak Spanish either, but apparently he reads English ok :)
Sent a text this morning and he sent me a photo of the VIN
Look forward to seeing what you can find about the service history!

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shmabs

Explorer
maintenance

A couple of things to straighten out here.

I can assure you that the USFS doesn't use prison inmates to maintain those. They are either maintained by local commercial vendors, or in some rare cases by Forest Service Mechanics, though there aren't many of those left, so most of the work is performed by dealers and local vendors.

The schedule for maintenance is a blend of Forest Service Standards, Manufacturer Recommendations and as needed preventative maintenance and repairs. All fire apparatus goes through a once a year tip to tail inspection that's pretty rigorous.

For some reason I can't pull the records for that truck, they may have been purged from the database already. But I can tell you that I know the forest where it came from, and who was in charge of maintenance at the time and he's a very competent individual. Total maintenance on that truck was about 98k over its lifetime.

As far as why it was sold, there's a lot of potential reasons, but it looks to me like that one was sold simply due to age and mileage, the forest service sets a standard for how long they will keep certain classes of vehicles, and on trucks like that it's generally 10 years or 150k.

As far as how it's driven, the only person that knows that is the driver.

Mike
 

NCLRbear

Adventurer
The state literally gets prison inmates to do the maintenance on these things, and I have seen crew drivers barrel down double track that would make lifted Rubicons blush at 50mph. Assume if they're selling it the only reason is it's trashed and no longer economical to operate.
the state of california might since they use inmate hand crews but these buggys are federal and they do not use convicts.
 

hankgs

Adventurer
the state of california might since they use inmate hand crews but these buggys are federal and they do not use convicts.

I call bull**** on the stupid post from the "inmate-maintained" poster- He has ZERO clue.
I can tell you, as a firefighter who has gone on many out of town assignments, that ANY vehicle that is part of the incident response, CAN NOT LEAVE the incident until it is thoroughly inspected with a fine tooth comb at "Demob". Whether the vehicle needs shocks, tires, air filters or a complete rebuild, it won't be released until it is in perfect road condition. The "fire incident" (usually the USFS), pays for any of the work, unless the fire occurred on State lands, then it is the State's responsibility.
 

uncompromise

Adventurer
Out of curiosity, how would one of these rigs go in a typical 4X4 environment? Given that its been used on fire trails I imagine it can take a bit of a beating. Or is it really best to consider as a base for a conversion?
 

Chris Boyd

Explorer
True this. A number of folks who have Ambo conversions have run into this issue unexpectedly. Even tho many are E350 chassis, the certificate of origin has screwed this up. I'm guessing it's worse for something like an international chassis.

Would make a cool overland rig though!
 

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