WTB: 2005+ Nissan Xterra

Storz

Explorer
With the year long VW buyback saga nearly over I am now in the market for a vehicle, we have decided to get a 2nd Gen Xterra. If you have one, or a lead on one let me know! Bonus points for being close to SE Michigan. I have a budget of 6k and would prefer a manual trans, though its not a requirement.
 

Airmapper

Inactive Member
Good luck, with that budget I fear you will not find much to work with. Not impossible, but what you have to pick from will be dubious in nature.

Be careful of SMOD, google that term and you will get loads of info. Early 2nd Gen Xterra's with auto transmissions suffered from a design flaw causing the transmission and coolant fluids to mix, which is fatal to the transmission. This can be avoided with the manual transmission of course, so that preference is fortunate.

Xterra's in your price range could be victims of SMOD or possibly in an early un-diagnosed state, running a little funny then you buy it and poof, transmission goes.
 

Storz

Explorer
Good luck, with that budget I fear you will not find much to work with. Not impossible, but what you have to pick from will be dubious in nature.

Be careful of SMOD, google that term and you will get loads of info. Early 2nd Gen Xterra's with auto transmissions suffered from a design flaw causing the transmission and coolant fluids to mix, which is fatal to the transmission. This can be avoided with the manual transmission of course, so that preference is fortunate.

Xterra's in your price range could be victims of SMOD or possibly in an early un-diagnosed state, running a little funny then you buy it and poof, transmission goes.

Thanks for the info, there are actually three manuals for sale near me right now within budget, but alas I need the buyback complete before I can move on anything. Is there any way to check for the SMOD problem beforehand? Did the Pathfinders of similar vintage suffer from this as well, we are also considering one of those but prefer the Xterra
 

Airmapper

Inactive Member
Thanks for the info, there are actually three manuals for sale near me right now within budget, but alas I need the buyback complete before I can move on anything. Is there any way to check for the SMOD problem beforehand? Did the Pathfinders of similar vintage suffer from this as well, we are also considering one of those but prefer the Xterra

I'm biased because I have a manual, and love it, but that is the way to go and have no worries over the transmission. They are easy to maintain as well, every 30k miles just drain and fill like an engine oil change, just a bit harder to reach the fill plug.

Clutch life varies, if it has not been replaced and has north of 120k miles or so, you might be looking at replacing that, but with a manual once it's replaced you are back on the road for a good long while. Xterra clutches get the reputation of being weak, I don't necessarily think that is so, they just don't tolerate abuse as well. So if the previous owner knew how to drive a manual, it's not so big a deal. If the previous owner let their 16 year old kid learn to drive in it, that's another story. But you could probably feel it out and get an idea if it's in good shape or not. Just have in mind the possibility of replacing the clutch and it might not be cheap if you have a shop do it.

The biggest danger of SMOD I'd guess would be shoddy repair work. If you test drive and it shifts funny that would be a red flag. If there are records, or you can visually tell the cooling or transmission systems have been worked on, that is suspicious. The most dangerous scenario is someone noticed it early, did their best to fix it by flushing it all, but you still have junk in the transmission waiting to cause havoc at a later time.

Checking the fluids, both coolant and ATF, would show if the two are intermingling at the time you check. You would have to be lucky and catch it before fluid was changed. SMOD stands for Strawberry Milkshake Of Death due to the fluids taking on the appearance of a strawberry milkshake when they mix.

Prevention is much cheaper and relatively painless. If you get an auto you want to make sure this has been done ASAP. You can either get a new updated radiator that has the design flaw fixed, or install an external transmission cooler that bypasses the radiator.

You can find a lot more info on thenewx.org I own a manual so this is sort of info I've skimmed in passing, take it with a grain of salt and verify elsewhere.

And yes I do think Pathfinders could be affected, I know Frontiers were and they all have the VQ40 engine. I'd check to be sure. To the best of my recollection, this issue got sorted out around the 2008 year model.
 

Storz

Explorer
Thanks again for all the info, this SMOD thing is pretty disappointing honestly. We've been looking at a lot of different vehicles and (thought) we had finally found something that checks all the boxes, I guess the manual trans version does but as you know they are very rare.
 

blacktristan40

New member
I own 2 auto Xterra's .. an 05 S and 07 SE. I tried looking for a manual but they are rare to find in good shape. That said, it is easy enough to spot an affected truck though. Just check the following:

1) While it's cold, open the rad cap and make sure there the fluid is clear and not cloudy
2) If it has been running, open the cap on the collection/pressure tank (right side of truck) use a rag as its under 16psi pressure. Take a peak inside. The tank and fluid should also be clear and not cloudy.
3) Take a 10mm socket and undo the bolt securing the tranny dipstick. Pull it out and see if it is also a chalky red color (Strawberry Milkshake of Death). Harder to see on the stick but if you let it drip on to something dark it's much easier to see.
4) Take a quick test drive. During the drive accelerate slowly so the shifts from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd happen at lower rpm. If the shift is harsh, that is a sign that something is up.

I have not had any issues. From what I have read, the radiator is the culprit though. There was a bad run between 05 and late 07 and they start to deteriorate internally making it impossible to see the problem unless you are looking for it. A new radiator can be had at RockAuto about about $100. That said, there is an easy 10 minute fix that bypasses the radiator tranny cooler to prevent it from ever happening post purchase. (https://youtu.be/-jXSJKucLyI) If you ever go someplace hot and use the truck to tow, you will want to upgrade the tranny cooler or piggy back a second on the left side. I have driven offroad creeping along dirt track in eastern Oregon in 100+ degrees without issue. Don't be put off by the auto transmission. It's a good 5spd slushbox. Just check for the above signs and walk away if anything look suspicious.

Happy hunting!
 

Storz

Explorer
Awesome, thanks everyone! This forum is the best.

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