NAS110 wheels ANR1534 what tyres?

meatblanket

Adventurer
I've been running tubeless tires on riveted rims for a few years now and I've never had a problem with leaks. I did have two tube punctures back when I was using tubes. My experience is that you'll have fewer issues if you ditch the tubes.

As for size, I run 235/85/16 BFG M/Ts (old tread pattern) on the 5.5" wheels on my 86. I may be nuts but I like the Michelin XZLs. Unfortunately they are very hard to find. A 235/85/16 is about as close as you'll get to the same sizes as a 7.50x16 XZL. They are a bit wider, but not very much.

I have a set of ANR1534 wheels on my exmod 110 now, and I'm using 255/85/16 BFG M/T Km2s on those. If I were running the 235s I wouldn't see the need for using the ANR1534 wheels and instead I'd just use the 5.5" wide wheels. They would weigh less and offer a bit more clearance and rim protection when mounted on the narrower wheel.
 

Juddy

Adventurer
I am no technical expert when it comes to tyres, but I have used xzl's now for over 5 years and I think there a fantastic tyre, not saying there the best as I have not really tried other types.

I have them on a 130 hcpu, 80% of the time there on Tarmac, motorway driving etc, no issues with noise at all, when it rains I wish I was in the golf, there not happy at all and I have to drive slower and take more care, but saying that the 130 is not a racing car it's a bloody big truck.

I have also driven in the remote Australian outback a number of times and these tyres have been amazing, they can take a bashing, and to this date I have never had a puncture or tyre issue with them in the bush.

You can't take chances out there with poor quality tyres, and I have peace of mind knowing the xzl's will get me home.
 

jrose609

Explorer
I have D110 rims on my D1. I have Goodyear Duratrac 235/85r16 tires on. Best "all-terrain" tires I've ever run. They have tons of siping and handle very well in the snow and ice. Last year in Moab they crawled all over rocks, sand, dirt, and mud and did very well. I also use my D1 as my DD, and I am very impressed with the Duratracs on pavement. Wet or dry, they handle well and are very quiet.

Edit: oh, and I run them tubeless :)
 

overlander

Expedition Leader
I have an NAS110 with the original tubed rims, and I have been running BFG MT KM's on them for 6 years. currently have the 255/85/16 and I'm pretty sure that's what I'll stick with indefinitely. I have been running BFG MT's for over 20 years now on Roves and Jeeps, and they have earned my respect. On these rims specifically, they have never leaked. I have a tire kit, tire pliers and a spare on the bonnet, so no need to carry a tube.
 

rijosho

Adventurer
I have beluga black painted ANR1534 wheels with 285/75 R16 BFG Mud Terrain KM1s on mine currently. Terrible pic, but you get the point. They work.
I also run the same size on Boost alloy wheels.

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Antichrist

Expedition Leader
I think I confused everyone with my title question sorry, I am more interested in how the wheels mate up with modern tyres with/without tubes.
Possibly, but no idea why. Your OP was pretty straight forward.
As for sizes, tire manufacturers all provide the min-max rim width range for each tire size.
Tubes- you can run tubes in tubeless, but you can get heat build up which can vulcanize the tube to the inside of the tire. The liberal application of tire talc between them will mitigate it. I've know people who's roads were so muddy they couldn't run tubeless as the mud would eventually work in between the tire and rim and break the bead seal resulting in a flat.
As for the interior roughness for tube, just run a tire flap if you're concerned, not sure what they are called in the UK.
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ini88

Adventurer
Hello,

Does anybody run these wheels, I have just bought a set for my defender and was wondering what the best thing to do in regard to modern tyres is?

Can I fit a modern tyre eg; BFG All Terrain 235/85r16 and still use a tube, I understand there maybe issues with the rough inside of the tyre on the tube or am I worrying about nothing.

Would be nice to hear some first hand experience, I am asking here as they maybe more widely used in the US than UK because of their fitment to the NAS110.

Thank You.

I have run these wheels with 7.50 and 235/85 and will be running 255/85. Tubes work fine in they but add rotational mass obviously. You can feed beads into the tubes or put weights on no problem. Also, when you add a tube and fill it up with air it will trap air between the rim and tube so your pressures will not read accurately until you bleed that air between. I usually do this by pulling the valve to the side or slipping a very thin screwdriver between valve stem and rim hole.

If I were you I would just paint or powder coat the wheel forget the tubes. I have done this on all my riveted wheels and they all hold air fine.

235/85s & 7.50s fit the 5.5 wide ANR4636 rim the best. 255/85 fit the 6.5 wide ANR1534 best
 

Steve UK

Adventurer
Great information everyone thanks.

I picked the wheels up on Saturday and love them. Put them on straight away, some pictures in my album. Sorry iPad won't let me copy the links.

The tyres are Michelin X, I will burn them out while I save for new tyres. At the moment I think I will go for 255/85 r16 BFG mt ( only tyre available in that size in UK) and paint the rims and try tubeless.

Going o/t these tyres are so noisy, an awesome howl on tarmac. Wwwwwwaaaaaaaa

Steve
 

Steve UK

Adventurer
Hi,

Well I have finally got around to doing what I decided after everybody's help and advice. Got them blasted and painted in Chawton white, the rivets were sealed with paint and the tyres fitted tubeless. I love the result and tyres are great although I have literally just bolted them on, and a nice suprise they were made in U.S.A :)

ps: Just a note to say the thread was not about which tyre manufacturer to use but whether to run modern tyres with tubes or without on these old riveted rims. The BFG's were chosen just on personal preference after doing searches. Thanks


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overlander

Expedition Leader
using 255/85/16 BFG M/T Km2s on those.

Same here. I have been running BFG MT's on my NAS110 (original tubed steel rims) since day 1 seven years ago. No issues. I have a spare, but have never needed it on or off road. The only times I've ever lost any air is due to things like a nail in my tire, but that is worst case a slow leak only noticeable over a week's time. I just plug it with my ARB kit and it's good to go again.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
Same here. I have been running BFG MT's on my NAS110 (original tubed steel rims) since day 1 seven years ago. No issues. I have a spare, but have never needed it on or off road. The only times I've ever lost any air is due to things like a nail in my tire, but that is worst case a slow leak only noticeable over a week's time. I just plug it with my ARB kit and it's good to go again.

After having to pay a shop a bunch of money to fiddle around with a simple puncture in a tube tire, I'm firmly against tubes. A tube puncture requires dismounting the tire, blah blah blah, etc. However with a tubeless, you just pull out your plug kit (I prefer Safety Seal, but I think its the same as the ARB kit, looks like the same stuff), plug it, and done.

BTW, nice blue 90! I'm heavily considering ANR1534 rims with 235/85/16 tires next year. My current BFG MTs...well...they are done. I like the look of the ANR1534 and the way it gives more offset. More aggressive look. I could go with spares but, eh...
 

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