The Other Black Rifle...

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
The Other Black Rifle…

I have a confession to make…please don’t heap scorn upon me…I don’t own a semi-auto rifle. Gasp…I know… that’s pretty lame but there it is. Thought about picking one up, shot quite a few but in the end I was like…meh. As putting game on the table is my prime reason for gun ownership and semi-auto rifles are illegal to hunt with here in the Keystone State it doesn’t make much sense to own one other than for target shooting fun. And as I already have too many money depleting hobbies I’ve passed on tacticool gun ownership. But… there is a black rifle that I love…black powder that is.

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I’ve been shooting, building, and running the woods with smokepoles since I first learned to shoot, and that was a while ago. Heck I even won a national shooting championship with one back in my helicon high school days. That didn’t help me get a girlfriend though, I guess a guy in buckskins and a possible bag slung over his shoulder was considered a geek. Go figure. What started off with a simple CVA Kentucky rifle kit soon became a whole slew of flintlocks and percussion guns. The attention to detail that is involved in firing and caring for one, the history surrounding them and the fact that you’ve got one shot to get it done is what drew me. This also led to buck hide brain tanning, flint napping and a whole lot of winter days tracking down a tasty critter to put on a plate. Oh yeah, we’re getting all Jeremiah Johnson and Natty Bumpo in here.

It wasn’t long until a couple of muzzle loading shotguns were in the rack and out hunting down bunnies and geese. Ain’t nothing more frightening to a flight of setting ganders than a load roar and the billowing of blackpowder smoke out of a cornfield blind. A sweet little .36 caliber Pennsylvania long rifle with curly cherry stock and German Silver hardware was built up for chasing squirrels and a good old Thompson Center Renegade was modded to my specs for chasing them there fuzzy heads. I still hunt with that gun today. Heck I’ve even dappled with an inline muzzleloader despite my protests against its non-traditional ways. My dad actually bought me one and forced it onto me just so we could go hunting together during the early season.

So is there any other flint-napping, sulphur sniffing, retro real old school lovers of the muzzle loader? And for the doubters just remember that during the start of the Revolutionary War the Pennsylvania Long Rifle with its Rifled barrel was the tacticool rifle of the period and the bane of British and Hessian officers.
 

Dave Bennett

Adventurist
Opposite of you, I have the the other black rifles but an empty space in the safe where one of these needs to live. Uber cool :drool:
 

Andy@AAV

Old Marine
1852 Enfield 3 band 58 caliber (replica of course) A .577 Minnie ball is a big hunk of lead... Worked well during the war of northern aggression :)

My next purchase will most likely be a flinch lock.
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
Meh...just another stack of "Look at Me" Guns...everybody and his brother has at leat one these days. There a lot like tatoos in that aspect. What do you do with them other than drop brass on the ground?

I love my old antiquainted long guns. There's just something about slipping through the snow covered Pennsylvania hills and hollers during the late January black powder season that I find very rewarding. There's no one else out, and if you were in PA during the first couple of days of regular deer season were there is 1.5 million hunters out stalking the woods the first day, you would know how rare that is. The late season is also my season, I'm not guiding kids or spouses or strictly focused on filling the freezer for the upcoming year. I'm on my own following the spoor of my quarry, easing through the hardwoods, trying to be as stealthy as possible, wary of snow dropping onto the frizzen pan, and well aware that I've only got one shot to bring a deer down. This all adds to the hunt for me. While regular rifle season is just about filling the freezer in the most efficient manner as possible, black powder is more about the chase and the experience. Sighting down that heavy octagon barrel, you look through a set of iron sights, as you place 'em alongside some yearling doe's head. The gun is cocked, the set trigger pulled and your finger rests lightly on the firing trigger... A loud percussion, a billowing of sulpherous smoke rises in the January cold, jays and crows call out in alarm, and your quarry crumbles to the forests floor. Elation and satisfaction mingle with some regret as you honor the creature whose life you took and you claim the protien that will help feed your kin over the next year. Such has life always been.

And when it comes time for some fun shooting, I still prefer the smoke poles. With no optics and a more confluted loading procedure, these guns force you to concentrate a bit more than a modern gun. Though when it comes to trap shooting I'll stick with my Beretta over my muzzle loading shotguns.
 

gophere

Adventurer
What do you do with them? Really?
Where to start...
3-gun comps every month
skete shooting with the coach gun
I have taken 3 kinds of deer and a black bear with the small .223
oh and lots o prarie dogs
three of them are .22s for the kids to plink and drop birds
the kel tec folds in half and goes in the dana design pack on long treks
the small pistol protects me at the shop cc
the full size when I am out on the ranch oc




the full size pistol has the most work done to it. Polished, custom trigger and all. The two ar are home made, by me. Lots of time and effort on those. My iron sights ar pings eight inch steel 400yards away all day long with suplus ammo. Put some of my reloads in there and you can shoot flys:) even the ruger has a jeweled bolt.
just cause they can 'throw brass' does not mean thats all they do.

Do have a few wheel and powder guns also, but they are not black.



sent from montana, usa
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
Gophere,I think you missed the point of this thread...I was trying to see if there were any other black powder geeks here on the Portal. There are already tons of threads here in the Sportsman section where people love to show off their black rifles. I thought it would be nice if there was a thread about non-tacticool and non traditional rifles so I don't really understand why you felt compelled to post your table full. Yeah there all nice guns and they're probably a blast to shoot, but how do they pertain to this thread? Were you trying to impress me? This is typical of the Portal as of late where its getting to more about showing what you've got and less about discussing the reasons you do what you do.

Thats OK though, I guess trying to put a little more sportsman content in this section of the Portal is a fail.
 

gophere

Adventurer
Alrighty op sorry to make you frown on your own thread. Lets see if this will do justice.
T C Hawken
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All his brothers
Traditions Pennsylvania .50 cal Flintlock
.62 cal flintlock custom
Traditions Crockett .32 cal Percussion
CVA Mountian .50 Percussion
Navey Arms Co. Double Barrel 12 ga Percussion
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Better?
I know, I know, they are not black. Hehehe;)

sent from montana, usa
 

Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
See, thats much better...:elkgrin:

.62 cal definitely is a rarity even agmonst die hards. Are you using patch and ball or maxi balls in that one?

Do you hunt with them or are they for shooting? If hunting what game are you stalking out ther in Montana. Here in PA its just bear and white tails. Getting an elk ltag for our small in state herd is like hitting the lottery, though I'd definitely take the .54 Hawken if I'm lucky enough to draw one.
 

gm13

Adventurer
Thanks for taking the time to write up some of what you do with your black rifle, Enjoyed. This forum would benefit from more of that. I don't own any black powder firearms but given my predilection for outmoded means of most everything, there may be one in my future.
 

gophere

Adventurer
The fifty cals are the only ones we use maxi balls in. I have yet to shoot the 12g and the hawken is money maker so it sits in a safe, but the rest do get out and drop targets quite a bit.
I have not taken any game with them yet. Dont run in to people when Im out. We have family land in MT and ND so I plan to use them in reg season this year to atleast get a North Dakota mule deer with the .62 but we will see. Chomping at the bit for a cat tag here in MT, there is one working our draw and by the tracks it seems big, but I think the M&P15 will get that one,if I get so lucky. Predators are scary when you only got that one shot:)

sent from montana, usa
 

1911

Expedition Leader
The only black powder firearm I currently have is an Uberti Navy Colt replica, but I have wanted a black powder long gun ever since reading Last of the Mohicans and the rest of the Leatherstocking Saga when I was in junior high I guess.
 

toymaster

Explorer
I don't have any black powder yet. Although, I have spec'd out an 1874 falling block 45-70 from Shiloh Rifle that is on my list to buy. For me such firearms lets us have a real connection with the past and lets us appreciate the advancements in firearm technology we enjoy today.
 

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