I am land rover illiterate. looking at all my options

[john101477]

i think the threads gone in the wrong direction..a tad

whichever land rover you get,expect some quirks.

not sure about the newer ones. havent had the chance to get to know them much.

oh yeah!!! No wonder these guys wanted their own private section a few months back.
No worries I will not be becoming a LR owner any time soon.

 

[Some Dude]

Boo hoo. Take your ball and go home then.

 

[d67u57]

i wasnt pointing at anyone...^^

regardless. peace and quiet,at least here, is why im around(haven't been around long though)

can the topic be salvaged?

 

[PhyrraM]

As someone who did tons of reading before purchase I can say that the LR3 is where a former Toyota owner should be headed. The difference in 'reported' reliability is drastic - with the caveat that a diagnostic/code clearing tool is budgeted into the purchase price.

 

[jh.]

can the topic be salvaged?

I'll try. I read and read about the reliability concerns of Rovers before ultimately deciding to buy one. It's only been a week so it's a small sample size but as with many other posters, I almost immediately fell in love.

As mentioned, Toyotas may take you north of 200k with ease, but a well maintained Rover is no slouch and it just feels right (at least to me). Tacomas may be more reliable and easier to source parts for, but I just found their interiors to be character-less and, well, boring.

It's a personal decision and if you don't want to put in the sweat equity, then it may not be for you. For me that is part of the fun. Maybe 5 years from now I'll regret my decision in the middle of some desert, but for now I'm on board and couldn't be happier with the feel of driving my '04.

Good luck.

 

[ExploringNH]

My thought is to go ahead and grab an 04. Anything with liner issues will have been resolved at this point since 95% of these are over 100k miles by now. The 2004 has the 4.6 which is a far better match to the Discovery than the previous 4.0L. As for parts being more expensive than a D1...Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Buy the one that has the most maintenance records. Like with any high end auto, the more maintenance, the better. You will spend far more than the vehicle's value in repairs if you buy a neglected mess. It just isn't worth the initial savings.

Just my opinion after owning a 1999 Discovery SD, a 2002 DII, and a 2004 DII. They all have good and bad points but I say get the 2004.

 

[jhawk]

Is this Discoweb?

 

[David Harris]

My thought is to go ahead and grab an 04. Anything with liner issues will have been resolved at this point since 95% of these are over 100k miles by now.

What makes you think that liners only slip under 100K? I have two engines that failed with a slipped liner and cracked block behind the liner at 107,000 and 123,000 respectively. They were fine before that. 2003-04 had the worst quality blocks of all. Any pre-99 Rover block is best.

 

[MedicalCowboy]

No wonder these guys wanted their own private section a few months back.
No worries I will not be becoming a LR owner any time soon.[/QUOTE]

What exactly is this suppose to mean???

 

[Howski]

What makes you think that liners only slip under 100K? I have two engines that failed with a slipped liner and cracked block behind the liner at 107,000 and 123,000 respectively. They were fine before that. 2003-04 had the worst quality blocks of all. Any pre-99 Rover block is best.

x2. 100k is not a magic number for slipped liners

 

[Howski]

No you wanted to be "that guy" and instead of any type of reasonable answer you told me to look else where. real helpful, real kind...

I asked specifically about the LR and Discovery because those are the 2 that I have been finding the most around here. after looking at some of the other rover options I am very certain that I could not afford most of them.

I gave you a reasonable answer which was there is plenty of information on these vehicles out there. The LR3 and especially Disco have a good many quirks (3 amigos, oil pump, head gaskets) which have been addressed in numerous threads on this site and, in more detail, on other Rover specific sites. If my response upset you I'd suggest not venturing over to Discoweb

 

[I Leak Oil]

This site could stand to be a little more DWeb'ish and a little less about greetings and salutations...

I find these types of threads to be selfish in the sense that the OP usually can't find the time to search for the massive amount of info out there about these vehicles but seems to think it's OK for others to put their time in to "school" them on it.

These trucks are nearly 10+ years old now, it's not like it's last years model.

My personal favorites are the ones that start with "Convince me why I should buy a Disco"...

 

[MedicalCowboy]

This site could stand to be a little more DWeb'ish and a little less about greetings and salutations...

I find these types of threads to be selfish in the sense that the OP usually can't find the time to search for the massive amount of info out there about these vehicles but seems to think it's OK for others to put their time in to "school" them on it.

These trucks are nearly 10+ years old now, it's not like it's last years model.

My personal favorites are the ones that start with "Convince me why I should buy a Disco"...

^^^
YES!

 

[ExploringNH]

What makes you think that liners only slip under 100K? I have two engines that failed with a slipped liner and cracked block behind the liner at 107,000 and 123,000 respectively. They were fine before that. 2003-04 had the worst quality blocks of all. Any pre-99 Rover block is best.

Just what I gathered from reading and researching. Seems that most first hand reports of slipped liners came from vehicles that were somewhat new in ownership. How often do you see posts in the last year or two from people who have slipped liners? I'm not saying that it doesn't happen but it seems far less common on motors that are well "aged". I'll be the first to admit when I am wrong about something but that has been my impression.

 

[Daryl]

Just what I gathered from reading and researching. Seems that most first hand reports of slipped liners came from vehicles that were somewhat new in ownership. How often do you see posts in the last year or two from people who have slipped liners? I'm not saying that it doesn't happen but it seems far less common on motors that are well "aged". I'll be the first to admit when I am wrong about something but that has been my impression.

It may be your impression, but it hasn't been my experience or the experiences I've heard from other people who work on these trucks. I've got not one but TWO 100K+ blocks in my barn. One has a crack behind the #6 liner and it's loose, the other one has two loose liners that were cutting holes in the head gasket.