FS: Custom Valved Fox Shocks
- Thread starter nldrvr
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Woah Fish, calm down.
Now that you're calm
I have a Rover 4.0 for sale if you're interested. Displacement is proprietary so don't ask.
goodtimes
Expedition Poseur
Actually - I see a solid argument for saying shock valving is proprietary.
If I'm a shock supplier & I go through the process of working up what I feel is the optimum shock valving for vehicle XXXX, with the intent of re-selling those shocks, then there is no way I'm going to share the valving information with anyone except my shock supplier (the manufacturer). Even then, it's going to be covered under a NDA. My competitive advantage over the next vendor is my R&D work on the valving - why would I give that away?
The simple truth is that businesses aren't successful by giving away the very information that gives them an advantage.
junkyddog11
Oil Soaked Filter
FOX will give tuning info, just not in terms that make sense if you are used to Bilstiens "valving". Im sure that Fox considers that if you are confident enough to be rebuilding / tuning your suspension you will have the talents to do just that, and unlike many larger companies they are very willing to help you achieve your goals (my experience).
GaAlpinaowner
Adventurer
Valving or suspension tuning is a science that many do not like to covey the specs period end. I think there are enough folks out there that have custom valved Fox Shocks to get a great baseline. I went through this with Bilstein and GBR and finally settled on a recommended valving spec that has been fantastic....
You think offroaders are difficult to get valving spec's from try Motocrossers .....fo get about it....!
You think offroaders are difficult to get valving spec's from try Motocrossers .....fo get about it....!
junkyddog11
Oil Soaked Filter
Yes, and motorcycle suspension is a whole lot more complicated. I could put King coil overs on the Rover easily for what my KTMs suspension cost. Never mind that I could put Fox 2.0's on the Rover for what it costs to service the bike suspension for one season. Then again I havent had to land many triples in the Rover lately either lol.
fishEH
Explorer
IMO a company sells itself on price and service. Lets say I buy my shocks from them and get their secret sauce tuning. Now lets say I blow a shock, thenwhat? I either have it rebuilt locally(or DIY) to my best guess, or if I want it done to match I have to send it back to them.
Most places rely on great service to retain customers. This place holds your shocks valving hostage to retain customers. BS I think.
Most places rely on great service to retain customers. This place holds your shocks valving hostage to retain customers. BS I think.
brickpaul65
Adventurer
I think that is different than the original statement. Are you saying that you would be frustrated that you purchased their equipment and they are not making it possible for you to repair or maintain without sending the item to them? That is not uncommon and may or may not be acceptable to you as a customer.
However, that is drastically different than "I have not sent company "A" any money and I am frustrated that they will not provide me with something they consider a service or of value." If your argument is that other companies post share their shock valving at no cost. Then obviously there is no need for Fox's valving unless you feel it is better, in which case it justifies the purchase. If not having this information in advance of making a purchase prevents you from buying the shocks due to a lack of information, then that is something Fox would have to decide if that is an impact or not.
fishEH
Explorer
I don't think this has anything to do with Fox, this has to do with InlandRovers.
I have done EVERY bit of maintenance and upgrades to my truck myself. ZERO time in the shop. I know the truck intimately. Not knowing the valving on the shocks on my truck simply is not an option for me. I have built my truck and made modifications so it is easily field serviceable. I have eliminated as many proprietary parts as possible. If I need a shock rebuilt or replaced somewhere in Utah, lets say, I don't want to have to try to get InlandRovers to divuldge their valving.
Maybe the "secret sauce" strategy works for guys that have someone else build their trucks, but not for me.
I have done EVERY bit of maintenance and upgrades to my truck myself. ZERO time in the shop. I know the truck intimately. Not knowing the valving on the shocks on my truck simply is not an option for me. I have built my truck and made modifications so it is easily field serviceable. I have eliminated as many proprietary parts as possible. If I need a shock rebuilt or replaced somewhere in Utah, lets say, I don't want to have to try to get InlandRovers to divuldge their valving.
Maybe the "secret sauce" strategy works for guys that have someone else build their trucks, but not for me.
GaAlpinaowner
Adventurer
true so true....