Does anybody know if the Pro is available with the 3rd row seat?
Couldn't agree more.
Funny how my 2001 Sequoia in the background has a 4.7L V8 and the TRD Pro 2014 4Runner does not.... and to think that Toyota HAD a V8 4Runner and then stopped... does not seem right...
Wasn't the T4R TRD Pro starting at 45k?
To me, a TRD Pro is just a dolled up version of a tundra, taco or T4R. If you bought a T4R SR5 or TE you could easily make it a better off road vehicle for less than the amount you would pay for the Pro.
The pro is a pretty good deal. You get a resi suspension with 1.5" of lift 265/70/17 tires and all the stuff you get with a trail (sans kdss). I've read they can be had for ~41K but I'm not in the market so I don't know for sure. Seems to be a pretty rad turnkey package.
What is a T4R? the Trail 4Runner? Never understood that, but I'm not up on my "text" speak.
I agree you can get MORE offroad stuff, but, not necessarily better.
I realize this is assuming, but I would guess, with the possibility of lawsuits and other things these days, that Toyota has engineered the suspension under that truck, which makes 4500 bucks actually seems to be a pretty good deal. To compare apples to apples, you would have to not price out an Old Man Emu lift, but rather call up someone like Bilstien, or King, or Fox, or whatnot, and ask them not just for a lift, but a fully tuned suspension.
I can't speak to the new 4runners, but I can tell you, I've ridden in a 3rd gen with Old man emu, Toytech bilsteins, and now the Ultimate Toytech lift, and none of them ride as good as stock, because they are all "one size" lifts. They are designed for an "average" vehicle, with some mods, usually.
A fully tuned set up for a specific vehicle takes a lot of time driving the truck, making sure the weight is transferring well, adjusting rebound, compression, spring rates, etc, etc... Driving on pavement, offroad, speed, slow, checking things like how the suspension geometry change is going to effect handling, how the roll over limits have changed, and so forth.
They come with nitto terra grapplersWhat tires do they come with? Looks like Toyos from the pics posted above
T4R means Toyota 4Runner. TE is Trail Edition.
You make some very good points. I can see the attraction to having the fully tuned suspension. And, like said above, it would be nice to have it factory tuned and under warranty. Also, if something were to break in the suspension, I wonder if the Toyota mechanics are trained to fix a TRD Pro??
Anyways, I've wanted a T4R for a long time. I imagine I'll take a test drive of a TRD Pro just to see how it is.