TRD Pro Sightings

AxleIke

Adventurer
Just curious, and I apologize if this is bad form Big Mountain, but what is the real world (so, bargained at the desk) cost difference in the Pro vs just a trail?

Can't seem to build the Pro on the web.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Wasn't the T4R TRD Pro starting at 45k?

To me, a TRD Pro is just a dolled up version of a tundra, taco or T4R. If you bought a T4R SR5 or TE you could easily make it a better off road vehicle for less than the amount you would pay for the Pro.
 

paranoid56

Adventurer
Couldn't agree more.

Funny how my 2001 Sequoia in the background has a 4.7L V8 and the TRD Pro 2014 4Runner does not.... and to think that Toyota HAD a V8 4Runner and then stopped... does not seem right...

they stopped as not many people were buying it and they had a "better" engine coming. the newer V6 had more power then that V8
 

Ryanmb21

Expedition Leader
The pro is a pretty good deal. You get a resi suspension with 1.5" of lift 265/70/17 tires and all the stuff you get with a trail (sans kdss). I've read they can be had for ~41K but I'm not in the market so I don't know for sure. Seems to be a pretty rad turnkey package.
 
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High Country Nomads

Guest
I went to Big Horn Toyota in Glenwood Springs, MSRP for the Trail was $38ish I believe with some discounts. We paid $42,500 for the TRD and $2k more for a 100K drive train warranty - I know we could have bought a trail and added the extras individually, but I'm not mechanically inclined to do all of that, plus now everything is under factory warranty and I'm just adding the ARB rack and hidden winch to keep it clean looking. I'm leaving in a few minutes to take a trail ride to tree line with a friend and his 11' 4Runner - more pictures to come tonight. Also this is my 1st Toyota so I didn't really look into buying an SR5 and dolling it up as I didn't know what I was getting into, however being that I live on dirt roads and washboard is part of our vocabulary, I liked the idea of the upgraded suspension.
 

AxleIke

Adventurer
Toyo's aren't my fav, but the rest seems like a great deal for around 4500 more. However, its a real bummer that you can't get the KDSS.

Thanks for sharing.
 

AxleIke

Adventurer
Wasn't the T4R TRD Pro starting at 45k?

To me, a TRD Pro is just a dolled up version of a tundra, taco or T4R. If you bought a T4R SR5 or TE you could easily make it a better off road vehicle for less than the amount you would pay for the Pro.

What is a T4R? the Trail 4Runner? Never understood that, but I'm not up on my "text" speak.

I agree you can get MORE offroad stuff, but, not necessarily better.

I realize this is assuming, but I would guess, with the possibility of lawsuits and other things these days, that Toyota has engineered the suspension under that truck, which makes 4500 bucks actually seems to be a pretty good deal. To compare apples to apples, you would have to not price out an Old Man Emu lift, but rather call up someone like Bilstien, or King, or Fox, or whatnot, and ask them not just for a lift, but a fully tuned suspension.

I can't speak to the new 4runners, but I can tell you, I've ridden in a 3rd gen with Old man emu, Toytech bilsteins, and now the Ultimate Toytech lift, and none of them ride as good as stock, because they are all "one size" lifts. They are designed for an "average" vehicle, with some mods, usually.

A fully tuned set up for a specific vehicle takes a lot of time driving the truck, making sure the weight is transferring well, adjusting rebound, compression, spring rates, etc, etc... Driving on pavement, offroad, speed, slow, checking things like how the suspension geometry change is going to effect handling, how the roll over limits have changed, and so forth.
 

peneumbra

Explorer
Be interesting to see what Toyota could come up with if they offered a "TRD Pro" Land Cruiser. Maybe an improved suspension package, better tires, and who knows what else. Then you'd probably be looking at an MRSP somewhere around $90K...
 

chmura

Adventurer
The pro is a pretty good deal. You get a resi suspension with 1.5" of lift 265/70/17 tires and all the stuff you get with a trail (sans kdss). I've read they can be had for ~41K but I'm not in the market so I don't know for sure. Seems to be a pretty rad turnkey package.

Actually you don't get any lift at all. The preproduction version looked lifted but when the production version of the TRD Pro came out the height looks exactly the same at the regular trail which is a huge letdown IMO.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
What is a T4R? the Trail 4Runner? Never understood that, but I'm not up on my "text" speak.

I agree you can get MORE offroad stuff, but, not necessarily better.

I realize this is assuming, but I would guess, with the possibility of lawsuits and other things these days, that Toyota has engineered the suspension under that truck, which makes 4500 bucks actually seems to be a pretty good deal. To compare apples to apples, you would have to not price out an Old Man Emu lift, but rather call up someone like Bilstien, or King, or Fox, or whatnot, and ask them not just for a lift, but a fully tuned suspension.

I can't speak to the new 4runners, but I can tell you, I've ridden in a 3rd gen with Old man emu, Toytech bilsteins, and now the Ultimate Toytech lift, and none of them ride as good as stock, because they are all "one size" lifts. They are designed for an "average" vehicle, with some mods, usually.

A fully tuned set up for a specific vehicle takes a lot of time driving the truck, making sure the weight is transferring well, adjusting rebound, compression, spring rates, etc, etc... Driving on pavement, offroad, speed, slow, checking things like how the suspension geometry change is going to effect handling, how the roll over limits have changed, and so forth.

T4R means Toyota 4Runner. TE is Trail Edition.

You make some very good points. I can see the attraction to having the fully tuned suspension. And, like said above, it would be nice to have it factory tuned and under warranty. Also, if something were to break in the suspension, I wonder if the Toyota mechanics are trained to fix a TRD Pro??

Anyways, I've wanted a T4R for a long time. I imagine I'll take a test drive of a TRD Pro just to see how it is.
 

AxleIke

Adventurer
T4R means Toyota 4Runner. TE is Trail Edition.

You make some very good points. I can see the attraction to having the fully tuned suspension. And, like said above, it would be nice to have it factory tuned and under warranty. Also, if something were to break in the suspension, I wonder if the Toyota mechanics are trained to fix a TRD Pro??

Anyways, I've wanted a T4R for a long time. I imagine I'll take a test drive of a TRD Pro just to see how it is.


LOL. Jeeze, I can't believe I couldn't figure that out. I guess since it isn't used for the other models (Tacoma, Tundra, Land cruiser) I didn't think of the T for Toyota. Oh well, learn something new each day!

Like Chmura, I too would be VERY let down if there is NO lift on the PRO. Toyota pushed that with the Tacoma, and I just assumed it translated to the other two trucks as well. If true, that would change my above points, which, while valid for valving and spring rates, the truck has had far less effort put into it than I thought.

What would be cool is if someone with a pro will measure out the frame height, say, just behind the front wheels and just in front of the rear wheels (where the frame is flat), and someone with a Trail do the same, and compare notes (both stock of course). Nice to just confirm that there is actually no lift on it.
 
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