Ford Expedition?

[MuddyOval]

Have you looked at any used Quigley conversions? They do an E-350 diesel van that's sweeet. There's one on ebay now-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320383319482

Of course, it has a salvage title which means getting it insured is a nightmare, but you get the point...

 

[photogadam]

Have you looked at any used Quigley conversions? They do an E-350 diesel van that's sweeet. There's one on ebay now-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320383319482

Of course, it has a salvage title which means getting it insured is a nightmare, but you get the point...

If that is how much a salvage titled one goes for, then there is no way I can afford to own one. That one right there is pushing my budget for the base vehicle alone.

 

[bucketosudz]

GMC Safari or Chevy Astro?

Would a GMC Safari or Chevy Astro fit the bill? We looked at them for our family for a time. Some of them can be had fairly reasonable and if you search a bit you can find them with conversions that would make living in them a bit sweeter. In fact I believe there is a member on the forum that wheels one. Just another thought FWIW.

 

[chasespeed]

That is also an 06....

Look for something a little older... with a 7.3 in it... much more reliable than the 6leaker, and not as thirsty...

one with a gasser would be even cheaper....


I looked at a decked out one, 7.3, panel side, alcoa rims(4x4, pretty sure it was a quigley, had leaf springs).... extened body, water tank, hot shower, bathroom, holding tank, and propane system... nothing else though, guy was a surfer/fisherman... had 150k on it... It was around 10k he was asking... sold pretty quick....

SO, If that is ultimately what you want, I say, be patient, and get it... they come up for sale....and, besides, you cant buy until next year? No worries... you will find something.

 

[Mike S]

Would you mind taking some measurements for me sometime?

I would like the dimensions of the cargo area including the space where the rear seats are. Height, width, length of the entire area.

Height where the second row seats are (if different), and the area of which the height is different.

And finally the size and position of the wheel wells (just the basic height, width, length at the largest spot).

I ordered mine (1998) with no third row seats. I will get measurements tomorrow AM for you. Nice truck, and I am considering selling since I have an 80 series TLC, a Ford diesel SUperduty, and a Willys flat fender.

I'll post back in the AM.

 

[Desert Dan]

What is your budget?
Why not just get a 4x4 pick-up?
Maybe a Toyota.

I can sleep in my H3.

 

[photogadam]

I ordered mine (1998) with no third row seats. I will get measurements tomorrow AM for you. Nice truck, and I am considering selling since I have an 80 series TLC, a Ford diesel SUperduty, and a Willys flat fender.

I'll post back in the AM.

Awesome! Thanks.

What is your budget?
Why not just get a 4x4 pick-up?
Maybe a Toyota.

I can sleep in my H3.

Probably about $10k for the vehicle.

I would like to be able to pass through from the front seat to the back without going outside in really bad weather, and having actual doors compared to a rear hatch and tailgate would be really nice.

I would love to have a Toyota (I had a Camry, and currently own a Solara), but for what I want, I'd have to settle with an older one and for reliability, a newer vehicle would be better.

 

[Mike S]

Measurements

My '98 Expedition -- second row folded down, and no third row seats.

Length from back of front seats to tailgate - 82" - on the floor

Width - 60" (48" between the fender wells) - on the floor

Height from floor to headliner - 39-1/2"

 

[photogadam]

My '98 Expedition -- second row folded down, and no third row seats.

Length from back of front seats to tailgate - 82" - on the floor

Width - 60" (48" between the fender wells) - on the floor

Height from floor to headliner - 39-1/2"

:wings: Thanks!!!

 

[jackflash]

I have a 98 model. The older body style is great, the new is not. For off road that is. The Expedition is not an F150 like most people think. The biggest difference is the frame. The older Expeditions have fully boxed frames. Lots stronger than the F150s. Standard models have Coil Sprung Rear Axles. On 4WD models a set of 285/75-17s will fit with out rubbing at full compression. I have taken mine to Colorado several times, gone down many trails (Engineer Pass, Cinnamon Pass, and so on) and never had an issue. Now you will not be able to go down hard trails or anything, but I went down the Medium trails in Colorado with no issues. I took out the rear seats and built a bed system that holds a full futon mattress with storage underneath. Worked out really well. Just my two cents.

Pluses:
Fully Boxed Frame
Coil Sprung Rear Suspension (On Standard Model)
9.75 Rear End
8.8 Front End

 

[photogadam]

I have a 98 model. The older body style is great, the new is not. For off road that is. The Expedition is not an F150 like most people think. The biggest difference is the frame. The older Expeditions have fully boxed frames. Lots stronger than the F150s. Standard models have Coil Sprung Rear Axles. On 4WD models a set of 285/75-17s will fit with out rubbing at full compression. I have taken mine to Colorado several times, gone down many trails (Engineer Pass, Cinnamon Pass, and so on) and never had an issue. Now you will not be able to go down hard trails or anything, but I went down the Medium trails in Colorado with no issues. I took out the rear seats and built a bed system that holds a full futon mattress with storage underneath. Worked out really well. Just my two cents.

Pluses:
Fully Boxed Frame
Coil Sprung Rear Suspension (On Standard Model)
9.75 Rear End
8.8 Front End

Do you have any pictures of the interior that you could post here or email?

 

[jackflash]

The Pictures i have are to big to post here. I tried to do that with the last post and it wouldn't let me. If you PM me, I'll send them to you via email.

With my last post, don't get me wrong the Expedition is not a hard core trail rig, but I think it gets looked over a lot of the time. To me (and I am not a ford guy) if it was between the Expedition and the Tahoe (For off roading with minimal modification) the Expedition wins hands down.

 

[Bob599]

What about an Excursion. I was just on ebay and there are some really cheap! Don't know that much about them but arn't they built on the F 250 platform?

I am setting up my F150 as a expedition vehicle for a trip to the north west and wish I could go from driving to the main area without going outside but a van is the only real practicle way to do that. I had a Honda pilot I would camp out of and never crawled back from the drivers seat even in Upper Michigan winters. It was never practicle to crawl all over the seats. So I gave up pass through for all the adavantages of the pick up set up.

 

[photogadam]

The Excursions are about the same price, but I think an Expedition will be large enough for me. Even if I don't crawl through all the time, i will atleast have a real door to get in/out of in the back.

 

[Juntura]

We have an '00 Expedition what I bought at a GSA auction in 2004 for $6,000. I really like these old government vehicles for a couple of reasons- they usually only come with the creature comforts you need, they have plastic floormats and rear seats, they are cheap, generally well maintained, the gov't usually sells them around 75,000+- miles, and they come with some HD components. Mine has the 5.4 with HD coolers & bat and it has the HD rear coils & LD F250 (remember those) torsion bars.

I have to say this but I hate it, it does nothing for me. But I cannot complain it still gets 17+ mpg in mixed driving, I have never spent a dime on maintenance (besides recommended), it tows really well, and offroads well too.

The hidden winch mount from Warn bolts up, their are some lift kits but expo sized tires fit fine, I think a skid plate for the tranny is necessary for harder off road work.

Here is the GSA site http://www.autoauctions.gsa.gov/VehicleSearch.cfm
They have a couple 2002's available right now- one with 19,000 miles