1 Piece Internal Beadlock Wheel

[blk88]

BTW, I believe the Hutchinson double beadlock is DOT approved.

Yes they are. However they are a two piece wheel and leave the locking hardware exposed. The B.A.D. Wheel is one piece; all locking hardware is internal within the air chamber, protected from collateral damage. It has a sacrificial rock ring on the exterior protecting the outer surface of the wheel. If you don't like the look of a rock ring, take it off. If your state requires you to pass a state inspection (like PA and many other states), it just takes 30 seconds to remove the ring. It's held on by 6 bolts. The 6 bolts are not subject to the stresses of holding the ring in place due to the reinforced 3/8" wide wheel lip. The wheel is designed to have a recess that accepts the rock ring. Similar to how a manhole cover sits in a manhole ring.

I'm not discounting any wheel design. All the wheels we have been discussing are great designs and work well. I'm just trying to educate on a new design and point out its positives.

 

[Stumpalump]

i have a set of innerairlocks, basicly like a staun but you can buy replacement tubes at just about any tire shop.

I don't think you can even get Stuans anymore but these are as good or better. One thing I noticed about the inner airs is that they recommend a lot lower pressure in the bladder. I tried that lower pressure in the Stuans and it was a great improvement. It seemed to smooth out the hits that bottom out the tire. Personally I think any headlock is mandatory for anything considered a trail.

 

[Metcalf]

How is this one piece? The inner ring looks like it moves to me?

It basically looks like you have to tighten the internal ring with the inner bead unseated in a tight space?

Cool idea, but like every design, it has some shortcomings. Nothing like a little competition in the market....

 

[blk88]

How is this one piece? The inner ring looks like it moves to me?

If you Google images of Hutchinson Wheels you will see what a 2 piece wheel looks like. The rim actually splits into 2 halves. The B.A.D. Wheel design is a single cast wheel.

It basically looks like you have to tighten the internal ring with the inner bead unseated in a tight space?
Yes, it has 3 internal rings that compress the tire bead to the wheel bead, if you choose to install the lock rings. I assure you, there is plenty of room to get the internal beads mounted to the 5/8" studs and tightened down. I can't post pics of it yet, because Off-Road has the rights to the first review/ right up and those pics as for now are being reserved for the write up, but please refer to the 4th pic in my original post. There's ample room to install the inner lock rings.

Cool idea, but like every design, it has some shortcomings. Nothing like a little competition in the market....

Wait until you see the wheels in a write up or on local rigs before you cast judgment. You really can't call it "shortcomings" from what's in this thread and from what I've shared. The write ups will happen soon!

 

[blk88]

Here's the Hutchinson 2 Piece wheel...


Here's the H1 2 piece wheel...


Hopefully this clears the confusion of 1 and 2 piece wheels.

 

[4x4junkie]

Not sure if I missed it, but when are these due to be out? (video description dated May 3 says "in a few weeks" but it's coming up on 12 weeks since that date)

 

[blk88]

Not sure if I missed it, but when are these due to be out? (video description dated May 3 says "in a few weeks" but it's coming up on 12 weeks since that date)

The first run of wheels came out a number of weeks after that video. It was just a few wheels. The next run of a small amount of wheels, 60 or so, are being made now. Those wheels will be used for mostly marketing pourposes and production prototypes. The first real production run of over 200 wheels will happen this fall.

I'm not going to put direct info on this thread about the company because, 1) the wheels aren't available yet and 2) I'm not selling them. Sharing this info on other sites has been sensitive and the threads get closed. I don't want that to hapen here. So if you want more solid info, get creative with your google searches and you can find manufacturer info and contact them directly. My efforts are only to create awareness of a new product.

 

[Metcalf]

Wait until you see the wheels in a write up or on local rigs before you cast judgment. You really can't call it "shortcomings" from what's in this thread and from what I've shared. The write ups will happen soon!

I like the design, I really do. This design seems limited to retaining one bead however I think that is one area where the Hutchinson style wheel excels. You get full retention of both the inner and the outer bead. Having the inner bead come off still sucks.

I do like the replaceable outer ring for rock rash.

I do like the one piece design, but with a Hutchinson wheel I don't think the 2-pc design is THAT much of an issue since the two halves are together metal to metal. With normal beadlock wheels where the outer ring retains the bead I have seen issues with the bead bolts breaking and/or getting loose since they cannot really be torqued down.

 

[blk88]

Not bashing the Hutchinson wheel. It's a great wheel. Check out post #16. Just comparing the 2 wheels. Also, are the Hutchinson wheels available in other bolt patterns than 5x 4.5 and 5x5?

 

[Route55]

Not bashing the Hutchinson wheel. It's a great wheel. Check out post #16. Just comparing the 2 wheels. Also, are the Hutchinson wheels available in other bolt patterns than 5x 4.5 and 5x5?

Yes, I think you can order any pattern. 8x6.5 is a very common hutchinson patttern.

 

[blk88]

Here are a few pictures showing the install and the rapid deflating valve. As you can see they is plenty of room to access the mounting studs and the lock hold the tire well as shown in the last picture.

 

[deadbeat son]

I'm not going to put direct info on this thread about the company because, 1) the wheels aren't available yet and 2) I'm not selling them.

No, you obviously work in the marketing department and not the sales department. :snorkel:

 

[blk88]

No, you obviously work in the marketing department and not the sales department. :snorkel:

Nope...I'm not on anyone's payroll. Just creating awareness for a friend that has developed the wheel. Plus Jeep stuff is fun to share, especially when it new cool stuff!

 

[haven]

The "cool stuff" being posted here is promotion of a new product. If you're interested in more information about the BAD Wheels internal beadlock, check out their Facebook page, which seems to be the source of the photos being posted here
http://www.facebook.com/B.A.D.WheelsInc

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