2021 F150 Tremor - updated build and price now available.

[phsycle]

Didn’t want to jam up the other Tundra thread.

Yes, but the other two documents clearly state an AWD mode as standard equipment. Bunch of confusion over this on Ford forums as well. May that all Tremors would come with 4 Auto as part of the package.

Regardless, So far it does not appear on any trim level of the Tundra.

Just me griping about it. .. Living in Alberta it would be a useful feature on my 35 mile (each way) daily commute on freeways and highways during our 8 months of winter...

Maybe it will be spec’ed differently in Canada but this guy at a US dealership shows a 401a package without 4A. Skip to about 7:10

Plenty of initial brochures have misinfo. Not just the F150, but all other models and other manufacturers as well.

 

[Todd780]

Didn’t want to jam up the other Tundra thread.



Maybe it will be spec’ed differently in Canada but this guy at a US dealership shows a 401a package without 4A. Skip to about 7:10

Plenty of initial brochures have misinfo. Not just the F150, but all other models and other manufacturers as well.

Yeah, better thread for this discussion, haha.

Yes, I watched that video a while ago. That's what clued me into the fact that the 400a and 401a do not have 4 Auto. Kinda made the Tremor pointless to me.

Half the appeal of the Tremor was getting 4 auto in a truck that didn't require me to have leather and other stuff I don't need or want to pay for....

 

[phsycle]

Yeah, better thread for this discussion, haha.

Yes, I watched that video a while ago. That's what clued me into the fact that the 400a and 401a do not have 4 Auto. Kinda made the Tremor pointless to me.

Half the appeal of the Tremor was getting 4 auto in a truck that didn't require me to have leather and other stuff I don't need or want to pay for....

I’ve actually only driven an F150 with 4A a couple times. But not in snow. Does it do as well as a true AWD vehicle?

 

[jbaucom]

I’ve actually only driven an F150 with 4A a couple times. But not in snow. Does it do as well as a true AWD vehicle?

I don't know about the F150 with 4A, but my GMC with 4A required a bit of a different touch in snow than what I expected. Before my GMC, I'd always had RWD (2WD) vehicles, and driving in snow required a light touch on the accelerator to avoid wheelspin. With 4A, if you wanted the front axle to engage, the rear wheels first had to slip/spin, so it required a bit more aggressive throttle application than I was used to in the snow. Once I learned to accelerate a little to get the front axle to engage, 4A was great - basically equal to our Subaru.

 

[Todd780]

I’ve actually only driven an F150 with 4A a couple times. But not in snow. Does it do as well as a true AWD vehicle?

Not sure how to answer that. If I'm in 'Snow' I have always put my vehicles in 4WD.

I usually used Autotrac for my commute. Which in winters is 70 miles of partially snow covered / icy highway & freeway.

So it's a annoying to keep switching back and forth from 2WD to 4WD when the road switches from bare to icy / snow.... Like below:



I typically do not engage 4WD for the bare parts as I understood it to be bad for the drivetrain.

I don't know about the F150 with 4A, but my GMC with 4A required a bit of a different touch in snow than what I expected. Before my GMC, I'd always had RWD (2WD) vehicles, and driving in snow required a light touch on the accelerator to avoid wheelspin. With 4A, if you wanted the front axle to engage, the rear wheels first had to slip/spin, so it required a bit more aggressive throttle application than I was used to in the snow. Once I learned to accelerate a little to get the front axle to engage, 4A was great - basically equal to our Subaru.

Yes, most of my experience with 4A has been with GM Trucks and SUV's. Loved it. Our 2003 Explorer XLT had it as well.




So again not sure why Ford can't put it in the F150's below Lariats.

For this reason the RAM Rebel is appealing to me since you can now option a transfer case with Auto 4WD.

 

[phsycle]

I typically do not engage 4WD for the bare parts as I understood it to be bad for the drivetrain.

It’s actually fine to leave it in 4wd on dry pavement. The only issue is if you’re turning sharp on surfaces with no give, it binds the driveline. That’s what you don’t want. But on freeways or highways, where it’s all gradual turns, just leave it in 4wd. No issues there.

 

[XJLI]

I don't know about the F150 with 4A, but my GMC with 4A required a bit of a different touch in snow than what I expected. Before my GMC, I'd always had RWD (2WD) vehicles, and driving in snow required a light touch on the accelerator to avoid wheelspin. With 4A, if you wanted the front axle to engage, the rear wheels first had to slip/spin, so it required a bit more aggressive throttle application than I was used to in the snow. Once I learned to accelerate a little to get the front axle to engage, 4A was great - basically equal to our Subaru.

The GM autotrac in my Silverado was super clunky. It worked well, but it wasn't anything close to as invisible or smooth as other AWD or other "auto" systems.

 

[Todd780]

The GM autotrac in my Silverado was super clunky. It worked well, but it wasn't anything close to as invisible or smooth as other AWD or other "auto" systems.

For sure. I think 4A / Autotrac or whatever Ram calls it is a good compromise.