97 Defender D90 $11K ??

We received an email from someone identifying themselves as "Michael Deko" He requests that I fax or email a copy of the title. I believe this individual wants it so he can talk someone into sending him a deposit on the D90. He writes with the same broken English that is in the emails that have been sent to prospective buyers of the "$11K Defender". We did not send him a copy! Watch out for this scam.
Susan
 

haven

Expedition Leader
I fired off an email to AOL asking their help to identify
the IP address from which the perpetrator of this fraud
is sending emails. It's very difficult to get the police
interested in this sort of thing without some idea of
where the villains live.

To date, I have received no response of any kind from
AOL, not even an acknowledgment for my email. I
suppose the only way to get AOL's cooperation is by
presenting them with a court order. I do see that the
fraudulent ad on autotrader.com has been pulled.

I saw a similar scam on CraigsList. When I contacted them,
the ad was pulled in a matter of minutes. Bravo!

Chip Haven
 

Juntura

Observer
Scammers

These guys are amazing, but the scam does work.

Recently the receptionist at my work was about to purchase an Acura TL for something like $4,000. She had gone through the process and was going to send money order to a "third party trust". We live in Boise and the car was on the east coast somewhere, the seller was conveniently headed to Iraq in two days. We begged her not to, but she and her husband really wanted a deal on a car and thought this was on the up and up.

As we were trying to talk her out of it she told us about their friends who had sent a money order out the day before to a guy on the east coast for a Nissan or something. Anyway the friends sent $4,000 and were supposed to receive the car in 10 days. We told the receptionist to please wait until her friends got their car in ten days. Well day ten came and the friends went to the shipping terminal and guess what- no car. They are out $4,000 (which they cannot afford) and have nothing to show for it. It has been about 4 months now and they have no money and no recourse.

We just feel really fortunate we were able to talk our receptionist out of this scam.

Please guys, watch out. These guys keep doing it because it works. I can usually identify the scams on our CL because we don't have palm trees or very many Mediterranean style houses in Boise.
 

ColinTheCop

Adventurer
02TahoeMD said:
I saw a thread on another forum where someone successfully played with these guys, he generated his own fake bank checks and strung the scammer along for a good bit. It was a very funny read.

A mate on a Land Rover forum set this one up, managed to get pics of the scammer as well....

:bowdown:

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grahamfitter

Expedition Leader
I played along with one of those "I'll send you four grand more than you want for the vehicle and you can give me the change" scams when I first listed my VW Westy for sale. I could trace the IP to a satellite based internet company. The most disappointing thing was the cheque was delivered in a courier packet from Nigeria -- how unimaginative! The next most disappointing thing was my credit union thought it was real and would quite happily have handed over the cash value on the spot.

Caveat emptor!

Cheers,
Graham
 

mtnbike28

Expedition Leader
yes but...

Graham,

Your (and key here is "your") bank would have given you the money and when the check was found to be bad, "your" bank would have removed the funds from "your" account. At least that was how it was explained to me when a friend was selling a rare Ferrari. He got multiple checks... all bad, but his bank would have taken every one of them. That was how it was explained to him...
 

grahamfitter

Expedition Leader
mtnbike28 said:
Graham,

Your (and key here is "your") bank would have given you the money and when the check was found to be bad, "your" bank would have removed the funds from "your" account. At least that was how it was explained to me when a friend was selling a rare Ferrari. He got multiple checks... all bad, but his bank would have taken every one of them. That was how it was explained to him...

Yup, that's how it works: any cheque can bounce -- even a cashiers cheque -- so always wait for it to clear before handing over the goods.

My point was that the counterfeit cheque looked legitimate. I talked to the bank the forged cheque was "issued" from and apparently over a number of years the paper, the ink, the printing equipment, etc. was stolen from a variety of banks and after a while the crooks had enough equipment to print cheques to order.

Cheers,
Graham
 

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