A nice and quick self made burner, i hope its not a repost.

RoundOut

Explorer
Wikipedia has a good reference on backpacking "beverage can stoves".

It says using 90% alcohol is a good fuel, 70% is poor, and 50% won't work. The stuff we were trying is 70%. We could get it burning in the center, but not on the outside rim. Off to Home Depot for denatured alcohol tomorrow.


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ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
Would depend on the combustion temp. If ideal then only CO2 & water. Blue flame is usually ideal. Any yellow is not. Alcohol flames can be very hard to see in daylight, so be careful with this.
 

paulj

Expedition Leader
There are 3 main types of alcohol
isopropyl - this is the medical rubbing alcohol. The 90+% stuff is supposed to work in stoves like this, though it can be sooty

ethanol - this is the drinkable stuff. The best for burning is high proof, for example, Everclear. But it is a relatively expensive choice.

methanol - 'wood alcohol'. This is poisonous, especially if ingested, though you don't want to bathe in it either. But it works well as stove fuel.

HEET, gas line antifreeze (red bottle) is mostly methanol. The yellow bottle HEET is isopropyl. There are stoves sold in Alaska that are designed to take whole bottle of HEET at a time. These are used to heat water for a sled dog team.

denatured alcohol - this is mostly ethanol, with enough methanol (or other stuff) added to make it undrinkable. It is easy to find in hardware stores. The is good stove fuel, and for most of us, the cheapest.

In Canada, the gas line antifreeze is available, but it is also easy to find 'methyl hydrate', which I believe is straight methanol. This is what I use when I need to resupply there.

For use inside I prefer a butane stove over alcohol, but it is better than white gas. I have occasionally used my stove (Swedish Trangia) inside, but do detect some unburned alcohol fumes.

In cold weather alcohol is harder to ignite. Preheating the fuel can help. Once lit, the burner warms its own fuel. The big problem with canister fuels in cold or at altitude is that vaporization of the fuel cools the fuel cansiter, and makes it hard to vaporize more fuel. It is hard to safely rig a windscreen around most canister stoves. On the other hand, a windscreen makes a big difference with alcohol stoves.

paulj
 
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RHINO

Expedition Leader
heres an out of focus pic of one of many i have made over the years,, i use denatured alcahol and have used it up to 8k feet, no problem. to speed filling i have a 1/4" fill hole that i cover with a penny for use, no fiberglass in mine.
 
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paulj

Expedition Leader
From looking at the description, I'd guess that Dry Gas is mostly alcohol (methanol), like HEET. However the other suggested uses (direct into the carborator) suggests that there are some other solvents in it. I don't know if those would affect its use in a stove. It may burn fine, but produce more fumes than a purer version.
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7wt

Expedition Leader
Here is mine, it is a pressure stove from White Box off ebay. I would be worried about the method they used to preheat the stove. Heet is very flammable and the blue flames are hard to see. I can just see someone burning their hand real good doing that. Anyway, here is mine...
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The biggest advantage to these types of stoves is they can be stored in your car year round and Heet is about $2 a bottle. I wouldn't store butane stove or a white gas stove in my truck in the summer but the alcohol stove is no problem. These things are also a lot of fun to play with!!!
 

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