And now the moment you didn't know you've been waiting for...Atl-Atl's 4x4 Ford E350 RV documentation thread!!

Atl-atl

Adventurer
Hold your horses its not 4x4 yet, thats the ride you'll come along on when we all pile in for a trip down UJoint Lane. There are 7 seat belts in this mini class C beast so everyone that will actually be interested in this thread can come along. ?

If you follow some of my other threads on here you might be thinking "Dont you have a K5 Blazer with a camper thats a half done project that you should be finishing?" Well the answer is yes. I also have a Tacoma thats an ongoing offroad/camping project as well as some other things in the garage/driveway/yard. Now that we have that cleared up Ill tell you why I added another big dumb project. I got married last year and the wife and I decided to forgo an overseas honeymoon (because the world is crazy and our home continent is big/cool enough) in favor of traveling North America for a year or so before we have kids. So I did what any reasonably intelligent nearly middle aged guy would do as the economy is turning down, political tensions are high, WW3 is one mistake away from beginning etc. I quit my job and bought an RV.

I know that sounds crazy but the original plan was actually to mortgage an Earthroamer for this trip. The main reason we didnt wasnt actually affordability it was usability. Earthroamers are friggin huge. You cant park it in a normal spot, you cant drive it into the city, you can go off road to access remote spots but in reality its very difficult, especially if its somewhere you havent been or there are trees. All of the enormous globe-trotting cabover luxury homes on wheels are great too but have you ever seen one anywhere other than a desert, high desert, or lumbering along the highway at a max speed of 55? Nope, because they cant. Enter @ujoint. I went straight to them when we landed on a mini class C RV for our trip. A few years back my good friend Justin @UjointoffroadCO converted his Econoline to 4x4. I watched the process and then proceeded to go on some offroad/camping/adventures with him and saw just how well the van works first hand. A regular Econoline just wasn't enough room for us...

Here are the details. 2017 Ford E350 with a 2016 build date that is titled as a 2018 Thor Majestic 19G. I guess it takes that long to build even the smallest of RVs. 78,XXX surely trouble free miles as a rental with Cruise America. 2-Valve V10 rated at 305/425, 6 speed auto, factory 4.56 gears and single rear wheels which is pretty rare for an RV. I was hoping to find a 2020 or newer for the 7.3 Godzilla V8 but they just arent for sale used yet. This thing has plenty of power though, drives and shifts like a modern truck and doesnt feel like an RV until you pass a semi at highway speed. The best part is it fits in a regular parking spot (barely) because its only about 19 feet long! Surprisingly its in great shape. These stubby Class Cs arent very popular as rentals so they dont get nearly as beat up or as many miles put on them as the bigger ones. This means you actually pay more for a smaller vehicle but Id rather have it be nicer and pay a premium. Ford no longer makes the Econolines for the general public but they do sell it as a cutaway cab+chassis to upfitters. Also, Thor no longer makes the 19G model available to the public so these are very hard to find. You basically have to buy one used through Cruise America/Cruise Canada or find someone selling an older one/used one they purchased in the past. Now that Ive bored you to death about a van, here are some pics.

Delivery day
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Home
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5 minutes in the Arizona sun makes for quick work removing the dumb decals.
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Porky the pig isnt actually that fat. Curb weight is more than an F350 but GVWR is actually lower.
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6R140 is known to be as reliable as the V10, which is very. Only downside is I have to drop the trans to swap the tailshaft so it can accept a transfer case. The older vans with the 5 speed dont require pulling the trans, oh well.
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4.56s are great. These also came with 4.10s and its luck-of-the-draw what you're going to get. 4.56 should be perfect with this motor/trans and tires I plan to run.
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Now for the painful part. Anyone that has followed along with my K5 build knows I recently made a comment along the lines of "well these are the most expensive leaf springs Ill ever buy." Boy was I wrong. ?‍♂️ Curious about the cost to convert an Econoline to 4x4 "the right way?" Continue reading.
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Wyuna

Observer
Ouch, that hurts, but you will have a decent resale value if you ever decide to sell it.

It looks like a great platform, yes it would be great to have more space, but like you pointed out, you will have more exploring options in a smaller rig.

looking forwards to the build
 

b. rock

Active member
I was very, very close to getting one of those and converting it. Best of luck, curious to see how the shell and interior holds up if you do take it off road.

Comically, my diesel 4x4 high top E-350, empty, weighs more than that thing does.
 

Railvan

Adventurer
Tell us about the camper box. Is it wood frame or aluminum? That total weight on your rig is well below my 10,000 pound E350 4x4 Sportsmobile but the 4x4 axles, transfer case driveshafts, etc do add weight. I'll be curious to see what yours weighs when you are done.
 

motovan_mn

Active member
Comically, my diesel 4x4 high top E-350, empty, weighs more than that thing does.

I was thinking the same thing. My 2013 E350 RB w/ 12 passenger seating, RTT, and UJOR conversion weighed in at a hair over 8,000 lbs. Of course taking out just a couple of those heavy bench seats brought it under the 8k mark.

Tell us about the camper box. Is it wood frame or aluminum? That total weight on your rig is well below my 10,000 pound E350 4x4 Sportsmobile but the 4x4 axles, transfer case driveshafts, etc do add weight. I'll be curious to see what yours weighs when you are done.

I believe Chris mentioned to me that the 4x4 conversion (t-case, driveshaft, front axle, etc...) adds about 800 lbs in weight. I didn't get to do a direct before/after measurement for just the 4x4 conversion because so many different things changed on the van at once, but roughly accounting for the other changes, that figure is about right for us.
 

86scotty

Cynic
Looks great! Care to document the headlight changeover? I'm still deciding. I'll definitely be going black up front as soon as I get bumpers ordered, the grill is easy, but I've never heard about the headlight swap. I figured it was plug and play.
 

Roam.Wild

Active member
This is almost exactly what we wanted to build! We weren't able to find a 19G to our liking so we started looking at the ALP19RD, same camper basically but with the rear dining setup. Only in Canada though. Excited to see this build.
 

blakeape

Adventurer
I love these RV builds! I'm in the middle of a Ujoint swap on a regular van now but could see an RV in the future. I bet it boogies with that 6 speed, the V10 and 4.56 gears. Do you know what rear axle you have and do you plan a locker/limited slip for it?
 

b. rock

Active member
How much wiggle is there in that cover for the stove top? Meaning, how much do you think it will rattle on a dirt road?
 

RVflyfish

Because trout live in beautiful places
Thanks it came from RecPro which was a site I only recently came across. $600 is with the matching hood, just the range is only $499!! Whats interesting is on their website its listed as their own RecPro brand but when it showed up it has this Greystone logo on it. Must be one of those rebranding situations. It seems to have good reviews and it fit the dimensions that I needed. Its also much higher quality than I expected which is nice. Hopefully it lasts!
Awesome, thanks for the link and info. That goes on the list!
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Great build!

To get a bit more counter space, I suggest getting a cutting board for over the stove. Either make one like we did or you can find them pre-made. Don't put any weight on that folding glass cover. It'll bend the hinges. Ask me how I know a Keurig is too heavy to put on it.....


 

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