AZ Travel Management Rule!!

AZTrooper

Adventurer
Starting in November of 2005, the federal government required that all national forest services have to develope what's called a Travel Management Rule. It's purpose is to designate those roads, trails, and area open to motor vehicle use by vehicle class and, if appropriate, by time of year. Also, to designate roads, trails, and areas on a motor vehicle use map. They anticipate that this map will not be completed until some time in 2009. So I signed up to give my input. They are requesting that the public come forth to give their opinions, and help create equal use. The thing is, our passion and hobby of 4 wheel dependant exploration is the silent group, for the most part. There are far more high energetic and motivated "tree huggers" that are taking part in this than we are. I felt it necessary to take part so I can continue the use of the NF in the manner I choose. If anyone is interested, here's the link. http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/tmr.shtml
 

Clutch

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Thank you for posting.

The dirt bike clubs are on it already. We had a nice showing at Northland Motorsports in Flagstaff, mid April. We had nearly 200 people showed up for the Forest Service meeting. http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2007/04/21/news/20070421_front page_2.txt#blogcomments

Trying get people to show up at the meetings is the hardest part. Which blows my mind, people spend countless hours and money on their rigs, will be all but worthless, if there is no place to take them.
 

AZTrooper

Adventurer
Right on!!! I just barely got into it. I was trying to find information as to when all the meetings are. I still have yet to find it. Do you have a link?

I agree with you. It's amazing how much myself and my friends put into our rigs. It would be a damned shame if we couldn't use the forest.

Will you please hook me up with more information about the meetings?

Thanks!!
 

Clutch

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The last e-mail we recieved was this on June 12th 2007.



Dear Forest Users,
The Coconino National Forest continues to make progress on the Travel
Management Rule. Since the last round of public meetings in November 2006,
the team collected over 1300 public comments. Along with specialist
recommendations, these comments were analyzed and incorporated into a
Proposed Action (PA).

The Coconino National Forest will be one of the first forests in the region
to issue a Proposed Action. Prior to its public release, the PA will be
sent to the Regional Office and reviewed for consistency across the region.
Pending approval, the Proposed Action will be available to the public by
the end of June 2007. Refer to the last part of this message for
information about receiving the Proposed Action.

The next round of public meetings is scheduled for July 2007. At that
time, the public will have another opportunity to actively participate in
the planning process by responding to the Proposed Action.

The final product of the Travel Management process will be a Motorized
Vehicle Use Map (MVUM). The MVUM will clearly portray the open road system
consistent with national standards. Current motorized travel policies on
the Coconino, however, will remain in place until the MVUM is posted to the
Federal Register in 2009.

Travel Management Rule planning and implementation must comply with federal
standards; however, the Coconino did not initiate the Travel Management
process solely because of national direction. We recognize a need for
local policy changes in order to reflect the growing popularity of
motorized forest travel and to reduce the increasing amount of resource
damage. Creating a sustainable road and trail system is necessary for the
health of the forest and the safety of its users.

While the Proposed Action will suggest significantly reducing the miles of
National Forest System roads, the Coconino does intend to maintain adequate
motorized access to the forest. The PA will suggest that 79% of
non-wilderness Coconino National Forest land will remain within 0.5 miles
of an open road; 95% of non-wilderness Coconino National Forest land will
remain within 1 mile of an open road.

The Coconino Travel Management Team extends many thanks for the great deal
of public support we’ve already received and encourage comments during the
next round of public meetings. Meeting dates and locations will be
announced in future correspondence.

Sincerely,
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| /S/ Nora B. Rasure | |
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| NORA B. RASURE | |
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| Forest Supervisor | |
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Would you like to receive a copy of the Proposed Action? If so, please
take a few minutes to reply to this email* indicating the form you prefer
from the options below. The time you spend will help us better prepare for
this and future publications.

· Hard Copy
· Electronic file on CD
· Access the file online, the link will be sent to my email

Regardless of your choice, please also include all the following
information for verification.

Full Name

Company/Affiliation and Title

Phone

Email

Mailing Address (include city, state and zip)

REPLY DUE BY FRIDAY, JUNE 22, 2007

*NOTE: DO NOT USE THIS EMAIL FOR ANY OTHER TMR CORRESPONDENCE. General
questions/comments need to be submitted via the website comment form and
will not be processed if sent to this email. Find the comment form at
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/projects/tmr/public-participation.shtml .
 

Clutch

<---Pass
If you haven't read this yet:

Arizona Game and Fish Department to hold informational meetings on how to become involved in the process
The USDA Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) are revising land use management plans and travel management plans statewide. These plans include updated guidelines and rules on how public lands are to be managed (including what activities are permitted), and how and where motorized travel should occur.

The plans could potentially include proposed alternatives that change the way you currently enjoy public lands, particularly with regard to:

Vehicular access and transportation
Designation of open and closed roads
Dispersed camping and/or recreation
Motorized retrieval of lawfully taken big game by hunters
Public input process
Each planning effort includes a public process for providing comments so that your issues are considered. The different Forest Service districts and BLM field offices are in various phases of the planning efforts. More information can be found on the USDA Forest Service (Southwestern Region) and Bureau of Land Management (Arizona) Web sites.

The Arizona Game and Fish Department has been working, and will continue to work, to ensure that wildlife habitats, wildlife management, and wildlife-based recreation are considered in each planning effort. However, the public must also be engaged throughout the entire process to ensure that issues important to you are considered.

Informational meetings on how to become engaged in the process

The Arizona Game and Fish Department will host a series of meetings across the state to provide an overview of the Forest Service and BLM planning processes and how you can become engaged.

How do you know if you should be engaged? Review the Forest Service and/or BLM proposed alternatives and ask yourself the following questions:

Access and roads

Where do I go to enjoy the outdoors, and how do I access those areas?
Which roads should remain open and which should be closed?
Will these areas be available to me in the new plan?
What areas are important to access for hunting, wildlife viewing, etc.?
What modes of transport do I enjoy to access those areas?
Camping and recreation
Where and how do I camp now?
Where and how will I be able to camp once these plans are final?
Will I be able to choose my own campsite, or will I be limited to identified sites only?
Will I be able to collect firewood, or will I have to bring it in?
Hunting and game retrieval
How am I able to retrieve downed big game currently? (Motorized, non-motorized, etc.)
Will I be able to camp near where I hunt?
How will the revised plans change or modify those allowances?
Note: Certain designations on BLM or Forest Service lands may dictate the approach to these issues, such as congressionally designated wilderness, national monuments, etc.
Meeting schedule

Informational meetings are scheduled for the following dates:

Monday, April 16, 6-9 p.m., Mesa, Arizona Game and Fish Department Mesa regional office, 7200 E. University Drive.

Tuesday, April 17, 6-9 p.m., Flagstaff, Arizona Game and Fish Department Flagstaff regional office, 3500 S. Lake Mary Road.

Monday, April 23, 6-9 p.m., Pinetop, Arizona Game and Fish Department Pinetop regional office, 2878 E. White Mountain Blvd.

Monday, May 7, 6-9 p.m., Yuma, Arizona Game and Fish Department Yuma regional office, 9140 E. 28th St.

Friday, May 11, 6-9 p.m., Sierra Vista (location to be determined; will be posted at azgfd.gov when available).

Saturday, May 12, 9 a.m. to noon, Tucson, Arizona Game and Fish Department Tucson regional office, 555 N. Greasewood Road.
The meetings will include information on the Forest Service and BLM planning processes; facts about the new policies and direction, from both a statewide and local standpoint; how you can become involved in the process, including the Forest Service and BLM public meeting schedules and comment periods; and resources where you can learn more information. Regional Game and Fish Department staff will be on hand with maps and information on local areas.
If you want to learn more about the management and travel planning process and how it could affect the way you recreate on public lands, you will want to attend one of these meetings.

The schedule for additional meetings will be posted at azgfd.gov as those dates become available.
 

Clutch

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We are strong believers in managing the land for everyone.

The Coconino Trail Riders had the largest showing from any group (25+ people) on National Trail day, which we took a part in cutting in some of the Arizona Trail below Snow Bowl. Which is a non-motorized trail.

I believe if we can't all get along...shut the whole damn thing down to EVERYONE! Which giving the history of the human race, that isn't going to be any time real soon...

Some photos from the trail day and the day after.

It's kinda fun..... but no where near as much fun as riding.....

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THIS is "WHY".......

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Ursidae69

Expedition Leader
AZTrooper said:
They are requesting that the public come forth to give their opinions, and help create equal use. The thing is, our passion and hobby of 4 wheel dependant exploration is the silent group, for the most part. There are far more high energetic and motivated "tree huggers" that are taking part in this than we are. I felt it necessary to take part so I can continue the use of the NF in the manner I choose. If anyone is interested, here's the link. http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coconino/tmr.shtml

I give my opinions from both perspectives. I enjoy recreating with my Tacoma on public lands while staying on roads, and I also enjoy recreating on public land on foot. Nothing makes me madder than hiking into a wilderness area to find a 4-wheeler making their own road there.

My comments generally revolve around the need for increased enforcement to keep motorized vehicles where are they supposed to be. I'm a motivated OVH user and tree hugger.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Ursidae69 said:
Nothing makes me madder than hiking into a wilderness area to find a 4-wheeler making their own road there.

My comments generally revolve around the need for increased enforcement to keep motorized vehicles where are they supposed to be. I'm a motivated OVH user and tree hugger.

I would say the same for myself, I find myself on both sides of the coin, that's why I perfer to stand on the edge.:p


We were hiking the other day, came across a blow down. Do you think people climbed over it? Nope, made a trail around it. I would be more than happy to take my chainsaw up there and clear it, can I? Ahh...no...that would be illegal my friend. Arizona is so ass backwards here. Instead of allowing volunteers to help with trail maintenance, you have to run it past the proper authorities to see if you can get a simple blow down removed. Which by the time that happens the season is over, probably be there next year too. Which I have ridden/hiked trails for years and still have the same blow downs on them. No matter how loud we scream. Why isn't there a release waiver or having a class where you become certified to go out on your own and help maintaining trails?

Going out on my own is illegal, but, blazing a new trail around a fallen obstacle is legal. I don't get it. Too much bloody red tape in this state.

The thing is, our clubs are going about it the "right way". Teaching responsable riding, trail manitenance, trash clean up, literally sitting on the court house steps, trying to get bills passed to help the State and the OHV community raise the funds to police and maintain the existing trail network. We are thoroughly frustrated, getting sand kicked in our faces. And that is what the Government wants, for us to give up and go away.
 
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DesertRose

Safari Chick & Supporting Sponsor
Kermit said:
I would say the same for myself, I find myself on both sides of the coin, that's why I perfer to stand on the edge.:p

That would make four of us, then (Jonathan, too)!
 

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