Best place to live?!?!

stuartr

New member
I was born in New Zealand to American parents, but raised in CT. I did college in Vermont and grad school in Santa Barbara. For the last eight years I have lived in Reykjavik, Iceland. Since moving here, I have not looked back. If you like overland driving, there are probably not many places that are better. That said, since about 2010 and after the eruption we have had a totally out of control tourism boom. We are only 320,000 people in the country, and when I first moved we got 450,000 tourists, mostly in the summer. Now we are on track to get 1.5 million per year. It has completely changed the character of the country, and while if you have never been there before, it would still seem quite uncrowded, to those of us who have been there earlier, the once completely empty landscapes are now cluttered with people.

I would not recommend it for most people, as integration into a very small country with an ethnically homogenous population speaking a foreign language is not particularly easy, and the immigration process for non-Europeans is very difficult. Like all cultures, they have their quirks and things that will drive you up the wall, but others you will love. For me, there is a joy in living here that I did not have in the US. There is hardly any crime and little poverty, the nature is vast, incredible and easily accessible, most everything is modern and clean, there is no traffic, the people are well-educated and worldly, it is easy to access Europe. On the downside, you better not like being too hot...it rarely gets out of the 50s in the summer, and the highest temperature ever recorded in Reykjavik was 79. Cost of living is high, though shifted in different ways. Taxes are low on companies, real estate and income (to some extent), but sales tax is 24% and catastrophic on vehicles, especially ones we might use. Health care and education are more or less free and are very good. People tend to have smaller houses and fewer things than in the US, but the things they do have tend to be nicer (that is quite a generalization, of course).

In general, I would think that the South Island of New Zealand would probably be my pick as an ideal place to live for most people. Compared to Iceland, most would think the weather is much better, the food is unarguably better, and the country is bigger and more varied. You have giant mountains, fjords, wine country, incredible forests, a lot of space and a genuinely nice culture that speaks English. If I had to live in the States, I would gravitate towards Vermont or Western Mass. Perhaps Alaska, though I have not had the chance to see it yet! From a perspective of cities, Copenhagen and Berlin are both lovely and much more livable in my mind than New York was for me...
 

Angelo1

New member
Didn't Magpul bail on Colorado because of some ridiculous firearms laws they passed? Not bagging on the citizens but it seems their like for carrying firearms about didn't stop their gub'ment from leaning the other way.


They moved to Cheyenne. 200 jobs gone and many moved with them. Gov. Hickenpooper just like every other liberal takes everything to the extreme and ended up costing the state $80mil every year. Instead he gets pot passed which has increased homelessness to blow up from those people bussing in for it and is trying to figure out how to build more housing for them. Liberals cost states millions of dollars by passing stupid regulations and laws that cost the taxpayer. My property tax in Boulder county went up $1,300(won't hurt me but will hurt others) from last year. The cost of living has gone way up turning many people house poor. I can't even install a water heater without paying for an inspection. They are adopting they same rules I left Cali for. Any way they can create new regulations to tax you on they'll do it.
 
Stay away from New York State. It's a Concrete jungle with oppressive taxes, law enforcement and laws. The many parks close in the winter for safety reasons. We pay taxes for and registration fees for ATVs there's no public land available for ATVs. He pay $9000 in property taxes for a $200,000 home. Eminent domain practices are the most aggressive in the country. The tax burden is offensive. 10% of the population has left the state since the last census. Redundant public services continue to spiral the economic system out of control. To go off-road to hear you literally have to leave the state.


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Skkeel01

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i like western north carolina. its got mountains, rivers, lakes, etc. hope you like hipsters though. They infest all the nice places to live it seems.

I plan on moving to chattanooga tn or charlottesville va at some point.

i really like the south east culture wise

Interesting point of view. In my experience, the hipsters (and gays before them) move into downtrodden places and make them "hip" ... Then everyone else wants to go there.

I can understand though if you liked your place better when it wasn't "hip."

On that note, have you been to Greenville, SC? We stopped there for dinner on a recent road trip and were very impressed, so will go back for sure.

I agree that your part of the US would potentially be a great place to live.
 

XJLI

Adventurer
Stay away from New York State. It's a Concrete jungle with oppressive taxes, law enforcement and laws. The many parks close in the winter for safety reasons. We pay taxes for and registration fees for ATVs there's no public land available for ATVs. He pay $9000 in property taxes for a $200,000 home. Eminent domain practices are the most aggressive in the country. The tax burden is offensive. 10% of the population has left the state since the last census. Redundant public services continue to spiral the economic system out of control. To go off-road to hear you literally have to leave the state.

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So, do you live here or just hear about it? Yea, taxes are high but it isn't a concrete jungle... why does everyone think NY is just NYC? There is good, legal wheeling in upstate NY and you're close to VT and NH with great wheeling. Like I said, the grass is always greener... And certain people will find the bad in every situation. It really isn't so bad.

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sydneyman

Observer
Interesting point of view. In my experience, the hipsters (and gays before them) move into downtrodden places and make them "hip" ... Then everyone else wants to go there.

I can understand though if you liked your place better when it wasn't "hip."

On that note, have you been to Greenville, SC? We stopped there for dinner on a recent road trip and were very impressed, so will go back for sure.

I agree that your part of the US would potentially be a great place to live.

You nailed it already. I dont need my town to be "hip". Just drives prices up like crazy. usually there are different types of people in cities. You can choose to live on ones side of town for suburbia, and another for the hip, coffee shop part of town. When a town the size of Asheville becomes inundated... Theres nowhere to run. lol. Greenville is lovely. A great vibrant downtown. not too big but big enough to find your own crowd. And of course asheville is 40 minutes away for mountain stuff.
 

A.J.M

Explorer
In many ways Scotland is lovely.
In many ways Scotland is not lovely.

The scenery, landscape views, cities, people, sense of humour and history are great.
Sadly, some of the people, humour and cities leave a lot to be desired.

As much as i enjoy living here, it's fast becoming toxic, politics have a lot to answer for.
I've already started the ball rolling to take a career break down in Australia, 1 year away could easily become 2 years.
 

Trikebubble

Adventurer
I would love to just come out and say BC, but I can't. I have lived here for 99.9% of my 46 years and only scratched the surface of what my Beautiful BC has to offer. So based on my experiences up to now I can only make the general assumption that BC is the best place in the world to live. I've travelled to Europe on multiple occasions, spent time in Italy at my Dads old homestead, sipped on a beer or few while cruising Loch Lomand in Scotland, strolled the beaches on the Oregon Coast, ridden my motorbike up Beartooth Pass in Montana and hung out in San Fransisco eating maple bacon donuts. Experienced all that and lots more in between and it still doesn't come close to the massive majesty that is BC. Hopefully my life allows me enough time to experience all of her before I a buried in her earth.


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Happykamper

Explorer
Far north Scottsdale , property taxes low, I stay here 1/2 a year it's great . I can get to so many great places to play expedition guy. Then come back for great golf and food and warm winters .
I spend the other have in Oregon ranch on the Mckenzie river. Seclusion great exploration areas all thru Pacific Northwest no sales tax. Home prices 1/2 of what Scottsdale is. Fresh air and my land with a Nile of river frontage :) . Tons of good to both. And I'm not looking or seeing the bad to either .
 

Shoogs

Shoogs
Lived for long periods in Zambia, Tanzania, Laos, PNG, Malaysia and originally from Western Australia, and back here now, whilst I love it and it has some of the best 4WD destinations around, think Canning Stock Route, Kimberley's and endless deserts.... But strangely enough always looking for the next adventure, home is home but isn't it why we travel...? To come back to it...
 

zelatore

Explorer
I would love to just come out and say BC, but I can't. I have lived here for 99.9% of my 46 years and only scratched the surface of what my Beautiful BC has to offer. So based on my experiences up to now I can only make the general assumption that BC is the best place in the world to live. I've travelled to Europe on multiple occasions, spent time in Italy at my Dads old homestead, sipped on a beer or few while cruising Loch Lomand in Scotland, strolled the beaches on the Oregon Coast, ridden my motorbike up Beartooth Pass in Montana and hung out in San Fransisco eating maple bacon donuts. Experienced all that and lots more in between and it still doesn't come close to the massive majesty that is BC. Hopefully my life allows me enough time to experience all of her before I a buried in her earth.


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I don't know if I'd want to live there or not, but I've traveled in BC several times and 100% agree it's an amazing area.

Although I've never given any thought to living there, just yesterday the wife commented that she could transfer to Canada if she wanted to (she travels there several times a year for work).

Is this the part where I say 'If xxx get's elected president I'm moving to Canada!'?
 

Rovertrader

Supporting Sponsor
Not to get political, but which choice would make you want to stay?!
BC is awesome- love the Sunshine Coast.
AJM makes a great point above, the proverbial half full/half empty scenario....
Pretty well sums every location in the world- not the latitude, but rather the attitude!
 

A.J.M

Explorer
Interesting how politics can make or break a location.

I'll be honest and say, i've no idea about the US president race, bar Trump.

I'm going to have a rant to feel free to make a decent British cup of tea, ( not that muck you Yanks try and serve up. That is not a cup of tea.. :p ) get a biscuit and read on.

Scotland is being ruined by the SNP. They have only one agenda. Split up the UK. At all costs.
We had a vote on it, the NO side thankfully won. But the SNP continue to bang the drum, ignore the wishes of the majority and are quite happy to run Scotland into the ground to try and force another vote.
Education, health, police, are all worse now than when they came to power, all local authorities are suffering budget cuts, transport is suffering. ( Forth road bridge closure anyone?? ) Oil was going to power everything and pay for everything, $113 a barrel and higher.... Feel free to post up what the price is when you read this, it's no where near $113.
Nationalism through the ages doesn't change, lie to the people, make up an enemy to blame things on.

They will sadly, win another term in government, and i'll be heading overseas for 2 years to get away from them. I'm 28 so may as well see the world while i'm young enough to get away with it. My LR3 is coming to Australia with me. I've some Aus off roading to enjoy and they get the diesel over there so i can keep it serviced and looked after.

Political rant over.
 

mpinco

Expedition Leader
Politics aside ...... Colorado (this afternoon, more on the way)

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On politics, glad the UK figured out the cost of socialism. At least Land Rover survived. Triumph, Austin-Healey, ...... on the other hand. On Trump, suspect he recalls "The Melting Pot" vs today's divide and conquer regime.
 

zelatore

Explorer
Not to get political, but which choice would make you want to stay?!
BC is awesome- love the Sunshine Coast.
AJM makes a great point above, the proverbial half full/half empty scenario....
Pretty well sums every location in the world- not the latitude, but rather the attitude!

Good point!

I wasn't being serious, more making a play on all the people who make that claim. Seems like you hear somebody say that about every election.
 

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