DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Those IC-7000s are neat radios, big bucks though! Having the DSP in the IF section should make them quite good performers I'd bet.
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EXP-T100
Adventurer
I can tell you, you can get a ticket for using 102" whip. I had 2 on a full size bronco and got pulled over in front of my house. The cop was an ***** so when he asked if i was try to talk to some one in Egypt i told him yes. He said i could "kill a kid" with them and that they were not safe!! and to take the off. he also video taped them with his in car camera.
But i never hit any one with them but i did hit a friend in the head with a 4' fiber on the trail, hit him so hard he had to sit down lol.
The fact is they are not illegal in my area but its up to there discretion to say if it is safe or not.
And like Scenic WonderRunner's said if it set up right you can talk far and wide. I have been in the MTN's here in CO and talk to guys in Denver, my truck driven cousin said i was most likely "skipping", he said if the condition are right you can skip really far.
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Scenic WonderRunner
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If anyone is running around town with a 102". Just tilt it forward and lock it down on your rain gutter and stick a Wilson 5000 mag mount on your roof for daily communication. They sell antenna switchers. Then if you have an emergency in the outback, you can switch to the 102".
The most efficient mobile antenna is the 102" whip.
Do not rely on Skip. I never do. It's unreliable. One of the best skips I've had while driving was Monument Valley area to Fresno, CA. We were talking for about 20 min. while I was moving at 60mph at night. It sounded like he was sitting right next to me. And then he was gone.
Just set your system up to work right the first time.
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The most efficient mobile antenna is the 102" whip.
Do not rely on Skip. I never do. It's unreliable. One of the best skips I've had while driving was Monument Valley area to Fresno, CA. We were talking for about 20 min. while I was moving at 60mph at night. It sounded like he was sitting right next to me. And then he was gone.
Just set your system up to work right the first time.
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xtatik
Explorer
Huh, wuh?
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Scenic WonderRunner
Guest
Is this a CB Antenna thread.....or a Ham Radio Thread?
Anyway.....
Here is some Skip Info.....
Skip seems to work best at night. I can routinely listen to Georgia and all of the southern states. There is a Loud dude up in Illinois....he's been there for years. A lot of these reg. long distance dudes run illegal watts.
I am simply using a stock 1976 EF Johnson 4 watt radio....that my Dad gave me when I first started to drive 18 Wheelers. I can't seem to let it go and upgrade.
Anyone with a mouse....should be able to search and set the CB Radio system right. But only if one cares enough.
I have also talked 60 miles.....without Skip. But it takes another cb dude who has tuned his system. One who is using a quality antenna and mounted it right. We can talk farther at night. Also....being way high up on a mountain can amazingly increase your range.
I have been at the Top of the World trail near Moab and have talked west of Green River Utah, 60+ miles. And east into Grand Junction, CO.
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xtatik
Explorer
Ummm, is that a question? I think this is a radio thread, and I also think you may be reacting a bit too defensively for some reason. What's with the "us and them" thing? I think the Hams that have chimed in have been very helpful and non-judgmental. They've gone into great length in describing why or why not on the 102" whip and how the other antennas are loaded. I also think they've been truthful and non-judmental in addressing comparisons in performance.
Thanks for the add'l link, but I already have a good grasp on RF propogation and what it takes to be heard around the globe.
I don't think misinformation serves anyone and my response above was in regards to the misinformed idea that "skip" could be initiated by, or a weak AM signal could be reflected off of the underside of clouds in such a way that any distance could be gained....it cannot. I was hoping I either misread or misunderstood it.
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Scenic WonderRunner
Guest
Yes it is a true question. Because the thread is getting blurred between the two.
And....both radios should be in our trucks. I like them both.
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And....both radios should be in our trucks. I like them both.
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xtatik
Explorer
Ok, well then I think I've addressed that question. I'm glad you like them both, so do I, but for different purposes. But, I don't think it's necessary to have them both in our trucks.
Cheers,:friday:
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Scenic WonderRunner
Guest
So what are you going to do if you run on a trail with 12 trucks and they all have CB Radios and nobody has a 2 meter?
Or what if a CB guy wants to do a run with 2 meter only folks?
I guess it makes for some good quiet time in the outback!....:sombrero:
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R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
Ok, to try to steer this back to the original topic, I have a question:
I have a Wilson NoGround fiberglass antenna, I think 4 feet. Out of convenience, I mounted it kinda low, it only protrudes about 1-2 feet above the roof line. Performance is... marginal. It works on the trail for what I need, it's been better than some other people's setups I've witnessed, but not nearly as good as a true 102" whip.
I think I could get better performance if I moved it up. But, the antenna is really inflexible. I'm sure it'll get snapped off by a tree branch unless it has some give at the base. Can I put it on a spring, or a swivel or something?
I have a Wilson NoGround fiberglass antenna, I think 4 feet. Out of convenience, I mounted it kinda low, it only protrudes about 1-2 feet above the roof line. Performance is... marginal. It works on the trail for what I need, it's been better than some other people's setups I've witnessed, but not nearly as good as a true 102" whip.
I think I could get better performance if I moved it up. But, the antenna is really inflexible. I'm sure it'll get snapped off by a tree branch unless it has some give at the base. Can I put it on a spring, or a swivel or something?
EXP-T100
Adventurer
Do what i did put it on a HD antenna spring and dont look back. http://www.rightchannelradios.com/cb-springs-studs-84/cb-antenna-heavy-duty-spring-456.html
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Scenic WonderRunner
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KG6BWS
Explorer
Yes, a spring would work for that. Just make sure to tune it again WITH the spring attached.
PhulesAU
Explorer
Yeah, There's nothing like being buzzed by a couple fighter at 0300hrs while driving along I 40 in AZ. the voice comes over the cb and ask " are Ya'll awake down there"?
R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
I wonder if the Wilson No-Ground can deal with a spring? It's got this funky tuning thing built into the cable.
Also, if just using as simple spring, won't it whip around too much now?