Does anyone have caparisons on approach angles as compared to stock? A long time ago I had a Discovery with a warn that was Land Rover's idea of how to install a winch on a front bumper. It stuck so far out and low that it was the first thing to hit all the time. Was like having a snow plow on the front of the truck. It was later swapped for a Safarigard which, among other things, moved the winch considerably higher and closer to the grill. From the pictures, it looks as tho DiscoDino's bumper is about as high as you could cheat it, placing the winch with what appears to be the same spot as the Tow Pin that Scott posted.