don't give up on H2
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IIRC the tie rods are the first to fail, then comes the cv joints then the ball joints, etc. If I understand corretly the 2500 series trucks and suv's were designed mainly as on road towing and hauling vehicles, 4x4 was added for pulling boats up ramps and such but they were never really intended for off road use. But marketing departments never look at intended design anyway and threw hummer body on top but the whole vehilce is too heavy for the drivetrain. The 1500 series make better off roaders. Some of the gm 4x4 boards though about replacing 1500 parts with 2500 parts on their 1500 trucks to make them stronger but find the 2500 parts are no improvement so they end up going with aftermarket parts.
Guinness44
Adventurer
The H2 body is not thrown on a GM 1500/2500. Certainly some parts are shared.
When the H2 got designed the requirement was that the truck (also the 3) has to be able to do 80 percent what an H1 does, bonestock, but fully loaded. Having been at AMG and their testing/traininggrounds, I wanna see that 1500 in the woods, and the infield. Bet my beer, it will NOT make the first obstacle.
For those who want to know, the net has plenty of info.
When the H2 got designed the requirement was that the truck (also the 3) has to be able to do 80 percent what an H1 does, bonestock, but fully loaded. Having been at AMG and their testing/traininggrounds, I wanna see that 1500 in the woods, and the infield. Bet my beer, it will NOT make the first obstacle.
For those who want to know, the net has plenty of info.
cruiser guy
Explorer
Guinness44 said:
That's the problem!! I see photos/videos of the Hummers breaking on minor obstacles on Youtube.
Now that you cannot lease a full size I think these are essentially dead except for those who require one of the full size vehicles (which is almost no one).
Guinness44 said:
I didn't say it was on a 1500, its on a 2500 suburban frame. check the frame specs on www.gmupfitter.com as you say the net has plenty of info, you see the frame drawings for the 2500 sub and h2 are identical as well as a lot of the drivetrain.
Guinness44
Adventurer
Go to Lynch Hummer: then: Changes by year and buying guide: H2 03, the first year, then Chassis.
CapelConcepts
Observer
panzer said:
SO TRUE!!!! The only real Hummer is the H1.
An interesting tid bit though, the H2 didn't entirely create a new market when it came out. It took a lot of sales from the Cadillac Escalade. The company I was working for at the time of the H2 intro also noticed a drop in sales for Escalade parts, but it was balanced by the H2. So what does that mean to GM as a whole if now they are losing the H2? Will people go back to Cadillacs?
Life_in_4Lo
Explorer
CapelConcepts said:
GM is billions in losses. The large suv market is dead. They can't make small cars fast enough and people leaving H2 are also leaving Escalades, Suburbans, Tahoes, and all the 'bread n butter' GM vehicles.
GM is so in the hole with it's investors, it basically showed all it's new vehicles undisguised for the next 5 year product plan just to calm investors! They just laid all their cards on the table, which is unheard of.
