EarthCruiser is closing!?!?!

rruff

Explorer
Plenty of experienced talent in Mexico
The people who suffer from easy access to low wage workers, are US craftsmen and by extension the infrastructure, education, and experience that used to make us self sufficient and efficient. Individual businesses need to optimize their bottom line for the environment they find themselves in, as we all do.
 

ReluctantTraveler

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Plenty of experienced talent in Mexico who have worked in vehicle assembly plants and vehicle parts suppliers. The Kenworth K-370 chassis (North American version of the European DAF LF) for our GXV truck was assembled in Mexico. AAV in Australia has the camper bodies built in South Africa and shipped to them.


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I'm not saying they're not talented. I'm saying that paying low prices to folks in the global south while charging luxury prices for the things they make in the global north is inherently exploitive.
 

gregmchugh

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I'm not saying they're not talented. I'm saying that paying low prices to folks in the global south while charging luxury prices for the things they make in the global north is inherently exploitive.

If you are trying to attract the best talent in Mexico you are not going to get them with low wages, paying them high wages (relative to the market) along with training and good benefits and chance for advancement in order to avoid high turnover doesn’t seem inherently exploitative to me.
 

ThundahBeagle

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I'm not saying they're not talented. I'm saying that paying low prices to folks in the global south while charging luxury prices for the things they make in the global north is inherently exploitive.
Lowering operations and materials costs without sacrificing quality is just sound business practice. NE us manufacturing has moved to the US south before moving offshore. As much as we all like to be at that hipster fancy charcuterie, we want to pay pork chop prices. Nobody is being exploited of they are being given fair wages and work conditions for the area in which they live
 

gator70

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For those not aware of technology, companies seeking low cost labor is a past objective. Soon labor costs will be equal on any continent in the world. Removing the labor cost advantage of offshoring.

Starting in 2026 Humanoids will work at Tesla factories. A demo for the sales to the auto industry worldwide. The effective labor hour cost is $2hr. Welcome Optimus.

The future is where manufacturing is located very close to the consumer.

Even DIY may no longer be cost effective.

Mexico, Germany and China incur the loses

The reason importing products from outside the USA is now moot.

IBM economists stated - 1.4 billion employees need to "reskill"

More so white collar and less blue collar.

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gator70

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Thanks ChatGPT!

The End of Offshoring as We Know It: AI and Robotics Reshaping Globalization

For decades, globalization thrived on the premise that low-cost labor was the most effective way to reduce manufacturing and operational expenses. Corporations in high-wage countries offshored production to regions with lower labor costs, benefiting from cheaper human labor and fewer regulatory constraints. However, the emergence of artificial intelligence (AI) agents in the office and humanoid robots in the factory is challenging the foundation of this model. Automation is rapidly diminishing the economic advantage of offshoring, making nearshoring and reshoring more attractive than ever.

The first and most apparent shift is occurring in manufacturing. Factories that once relied on offshore labor to assemble products at lower costs are now turning to humanoid robots that can perform repetitive tasks with higher efficiency, precision, and consistency. These robots, unlike human workers, do not require wages, breaks, or benefits, drastically cutting operational costs. Companies no longer need to chase cheap labor across borders when intelligent machines can work 24/7 with minimal supervision.

A similar transformation is unfolding in the corporate world. Business Process Outsourcing (BPO), which has long depended on offshoring customer support, data entry, and back-office tasks to lower-cost regions, is being disrupted by AI agents. Advanced AI-powered chatbots and virtual assistants now handle customer inquiries, financial reconciliations, and administrative tasks with speed and accuracy that surpass human capabilities. This eliminates the need to move these services offshore, as AI can perform them locally without language barriers, cultural training, or logistical challenges.

The cost dynamics of AI and robotics further erode the financial justification for offshoring. Historically, labor in developing countries remained cheaper than automation, making outsourcing a logical choice. However, the cost of AI models and humanoid robots is falling rapidly, while their capabilities are increasing exponentially. As companies invest in AI-driven automation, they achieve a one-time capital expenditure that replaces ongoing labor costs, making reshoring more appealing than continuing to depend on offshore workforces.

Moreover, political and economic shifts reinforce the trend away from offshoring. Trade wars, supply chain disruptions, and increasing labor costs in traditionally low-cost regions have eroded the cost advantages of globalization. Governments in high-wage countries are also offering incentives for domestic automation and reshoring, further encouraging businesses to localize operations rather than depend on foreign labor. AI and robotics provide the missing piece that allows companies to take advantage of these incentives while maintaining competitive cost structures.

Beyond economics, the quality and security advantages of automation are undeniable. Offshoring introduces risks such as inconsistent quality control, intellectual property theft, and reliance on politically unstable regions. AI and humanoid robots offer companies greater control over their production processes, improving product consistency and minimizing security concerns. With automation, businesses can eliminate many of the risks associated with offshore outsourcing while maintaining—or even increasing—efficiency.

Workforce expectations are also evolving in a way that favors automation over offshoring. In developed countries, workers increasingly seek higher-value roles rather than low-skill, repetitive jobs. AI and robotics make it possible for businesses to automate these repetitive tasks while creating new job opportunities in AI supervision, robot maintenance, and innovation. This shift ensures that labor markets remain sustainable without the need to outsource mundane tasks to distant locations.

Another critical factor is environmental sustainability. Offshoring has long been associated with high carbon footprints due to long supply chains, shipping emissions, and wasteful production processes. With automation enabling localized production, companies can reduce their environmental impact by shortening supply chains, cutting transportation emissions, and improving energy efficiency. AI-driven logistics further enhance sustainability by optimizing resource allocation and reducing waste.

While some industries may still rely on offshore labor in the short term, the long-term trajectory is clear: AI and robotics are making traditional offshoring models obsolete. Companies that fail to adapt to this shift will struggle to remain competitive against those that embrace automation and localized production. The globalization era that depended on cheap labor is rapidly giving way to an era driven by intelligent automation.

The future of globalization will not be defined by the pursuit of low-cost human labor but by the strategic deployment of AI and robotics to optimize efficiency, security, and sustainability. Companies that recognize this transformation early will be better positioned to lead in an increasingly automated and localized global economy. The question is no longer whether automation will replace offshoring—it is how quickly businesses will make the transition.
 

gator70

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Plenty of experienced talent in Mexico who have worked in vehicle assembly plants and vehicle parts suppliers. The Kenworth K-370 chassis (North American version of the European DAF LF) for our GXV truck was assembled in Mexico. AAV in Australia has the camper bodies built in South Africa and shipped to them.


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Lots of great off-road stuff for sale in Australia. What people don't know, most is imported from China
 

Steve_382

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Lots of great off-road stuff for sale in Australia. What people don't know, most is imported from China
The fiberglass body on the 27North RexRover was imported from South Korea I believe, but I think they have had problems with getting them to the US. I can't verify this, but it's what I heard.
 

calameda

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For those not aware of technology, companies seeking low cost labor is a past objective. Soon labor costs will be equal on any continent in the world. Removing the labor cost advantage of offshoring.

Starting in 2026 Humanoids will work at Tesla factories. A demo for the sales to the auto industry worldwide. The effective labor hour cost is $2hr. Welcome Optimus.

The future is where manufacturing is located very close to the consumer.

Even DIY may no longer be cost effective.

Mexico, Germany and China incur the loses

The reason importing products from outside the USA is now moot.

IBM economists stated - 1.4 billion employees need to "reskill"

More so white collar and less blue collar.

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1.4 billion people will need to “reskill”? I think that’s code for being jobless.

All of us, even CEOs, better hope this doesn’t happen. The degree of social unrest will dwarf anything we’ve seen in the last 100+ years.
 

gator70

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1.4 billion people will need to “reskill”? I think that’s code for being jobless.

All of us, even CEOs, better hope this doesn’t happen. The degree of social unrest will dwarf anything we’ve seen in the last 100+ years.

One expert said: 120 years ago we were all farmers. Then the tractor was invented. We all found jobs.
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I teach AI agents for non technical folks. The only skill you need is “ Windows copy and paste”
 
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calameda

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One expert said: 120 years ago we were all farmers. Then the tractor was invented. We all found jobs.
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I teach AI agents for non technical folks. The only skill you need is “ Windows copy and paste”

your expert doesnt know much history. there was a rolling series of ever more violent labor revolts in the US from 1870s-1920s. Similarly in Europe. oh and a little thing called the Russian revolution in 1905.

But yeah, sure, once they buried all the dead, some found jobs. The rest died in WW1, the 1918 pandemic and the depression.

Other than that it was pretty chill.
 
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ThundahBeagle

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Thanks ChatGPT!

The End of Offshoring as We Know It: AI and Robotics Reshaping Globalization

For decades, globalization thrived on the premise that low-cost labor was the most effective way to reduce manufacturing and operational expenses. Corporations in high-wage countries offshored production to regions with lower labor costs, benefiting from cheaper human labor and fewer regulatory constraints. However, the emergence of artificial intelligence (AI) agents in the office and humanoid robots in the factory is challenging the foundation of this model. Automation is rapidly diminishing the economic advantage of offshoring, making nearshoring and reshoring more attractive than ever.

The first and most apparent shift is occurring in manufacturing. Factories that once relied on offshore labor to assemble products at lower costs are now turning to humanoid robots that can perform repetitive tasks with higher efficiency, precision, and consistency. These robots, unlike human workers, do not require wages, breaks, or benefits, drastically cutting operational costs. Companies no longer need to chase cheap labor across borders when intelligent machines can work 24/7 with minimal supervision.

A similar transformation is unfolding in the corporate world. Business Process Outsourcing (BPO), which has long depended on offshoring customer support, data entry, and back-office tasks to lower-cost regions, is being disrupted by AI agents. Advanced AI-powered chatbots and virtual assistants now handle customer inquiries, financial reconciliations, and administrative tasks with speed and accuracy that surpass human capabilities. This eliminates the need to move these services offshore, as AI can perform them locally without language barriers, cultural training, or logistical challenges.

The cost dynamics of AI and robotics further erode the financial justification for offshoring. Historically, labor in developing countries remained cheaper than automation, making outsourcing a logical choice. However, the cost of AI models and humanoid robots is falling rapidly, while their capabilities are increasing exponentially. As companies invest in AI-driven automation, they achieve a one-time capital expenditure that replaces ongoing labor costs, making reshoring more appealing than continuing to depend on offshore workforces.

Moreover, political and economic shifts reinforce the trend away from offshoring. Trade wars, supply chain disruptions, and increasing labor costs in traditionally low-cost regions have eroded the cost advantages of globalization. Governments in high-wage countries are also offering incentives for domestic automation and reshoring, further encouraging businesses to localize operations rather than depend on foreign labor. AI and robotics provide the missing piece that allows companies to take advantage of these incentives while maintaining competitive cost structures.

Beyond economics, the quality and security advantages of automation are undeniable. Offshoring introduces risks such as inconsistent quality control, intellectual property theft, and reliance on politically unstable regions. AI and humanoid robots offer companies greater control over their production processes, improving product consistency and minimizing security concerns. With automation, businesses can eliminate many of the risks associated with offshore outsourcing while maintaining—or even increasing—efficiency.

Workforce expectations are also evolving in a way that favors automation over offshoring. In developed countries, workers increasingly seek higher-value roles rather than low-skill, repetitive jobs. AI and robotics make it possible for businesses to automate these repetitive tasks while creating new job opportunities in AI supervision, robot maintenance, and innovation. This shift ensures that labor markets remain sustainable without the need to outsource mundane tasks to distant locations.

Another critical factor is environmental sustainability. Offshoring has long been associated with high carbon footprints due to long supply chains, shipping emissions, and wasteful production processes. With automation enabling localized production, companies can reduce their environmental impact by shortening supply chains, cutting transportation emissions, and improving energy efficiency. AI-driven logistics further enhance sustainability by optimizing resource allocation and reducing waste.

While some industries may still rely on offshore labor in the short term, the long-term trajectory is clear: AI and robotics are making traditional offshoring models obsolete. Companies that fail to adapt to this shift will struggle to remain competitive against those that embrace automation and localized production. The globalization era that depended on cheap labor is rapidly giving way to an era driven by intelligent automation.

The future of globalization will not be defined by the pursuit of low-cost human labor but by the strategic deployment of AI and robotics to optimize efficiency, security, and sustainability. Companies that recognize this transformation early will be better positioned to lead in an increasingly automated and localized global economy. The question is no longer whether automation will replace offshoring—it is how quickly businesses will make the transition.
Even if I agree with this exposition of an article you've written, this thread is about Earthcruiser, not an AI agenda. This belongs in "AI Weekly Magazine" or something
 

gator70

Active member
Even if I agree with this exposition of an article you've written, this thread is about Earthcruiser, not an AI agenda. This belongs in "AI Weekly Magazine" or something

The topic is earth cruiser manufacturing in a low labor cost country. The text I wrote, validates that the step is a losing senario. Case in point; most auto manufacturers will close Mexican factories. And discuss this as we speak.
 

ThundahBeagle

Well-known member
your expert doesnt know much history. there was a rolling series of ever more violent labor revolts in the US from 1870s-1920s. Similarly in Europe. oh and a little thing called the Russian revolution in 1905.

But yeah, sure, once they buried all the dead, some found jobs. The rest died in WW1, the 1918 pandemic and the depression.

Other than that it was pretty chill.
Perfect. Knowing a Union Steward, I was going to chime in at the "reskill" and "we all found jobs" throw away statements. But you got it. Carnegie even hired Pinkerton to shoot down his own employees (Homestead strike) and the anthracite strike 10 years later and many struggles between and since
 

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